Sokola Kim Mike

7/25/2019 Sokola Kim Mike

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David Sokolato Mike Matthews

Yesterday at 2:24pm

Actually Mike, the bill was read out of committee ad o to the !eady "ist before we

wet to the

#im $asey %illiams, "aura &ashad 2 otherslike this'

$ommets

Mike MatthewsSeator: (hak you for the commet ad ) *euiely appreciate the

dialo*ue'

+ %hy did you -le this bill. %hat was the purpose for you -li* this bill cosideri*

#im/s has bee i e0istece sice last year.

2 %ith due respect, 1ust because #im/s bill is o the ready list, does/t mea it will

appear o a A$(A" a*eda prior to your bill'

3 Auditor/s oce has *oe o the record that your bill does othi* whecompared to #im/s' So, a*ai, what does your bill do to 5&S!5 that charters fall

uder the oce of the state auditor.

4 Your collea*ues are stati* o6 the record that this bill was speci-cally -led to

torpedo #im/s bill'

7 )/ve heard from multiple sources that the director of the D$S& was silet duri*

the educatio committee meeti* last week whe discussi* #im/s bill, somethi*

we kow she/s 8595M5&("Y a*aist' %hy. ecause she probably kows your bill

will *o throu*h -rst oce it leaves the educatio committee this comi* week ad!ep' 5arl ;a


2/18

Matthew "idellStiks of the Delaware %ay'''

;oh #owalko )))+> hours ad o respose.

5ve uckley9 +?@ is ot aticharter' )t is prota0payer' Ay member of the D5

le*islature who supports ta0payers has o reaso to oppose 9 +?@' $harter school

autoomy does ot e0ted to embeBBlemet'

;ill Shilli*(he problem is there are too may le*islators that simply 1ust do/t

support ta0payers, they oly serve their ow iterests'

Susa %illiams(hat/s why we have to publish how they vote whe it comes time for

their reelectios' Ad share the iformatio with as may people i their districts as

possible' Susa Meay %illiams

#im $asey %illiams9 +?@ will keep the fuds i the charter schools, where it

belo*s helpi* studets ad teachers, ot i oe perso/s wallet'

;ill Shilli*) a*ree that 9+?@ is absolutely eeded ad ) hope it does/t *et cau*ht

up i political *ames by politicias servi* their ow special iterest *roups like

other bills ofte do i Delaware'

;oh M' You*;ust like the back door cabal a*aist 97>
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3/18

David Sokola$urretly, auditi* a re*ular Cublic or 8ocatioal School district is

listed uder +7>4 of (itle +4' Audits of $harter Schools is uder 7+3 of (itle +4' My

bill speci-cally adds ad the boards of educatio of $harter Schools created uder

chaper 7 of this title' after the boards of educatio of the school districts'

5verythi* else i my proposal would oly a6ect $harters by putti* very speci-c

re


4/18

David Sokola(heir audits are, ad should be submitted to the State Auditor' (hey

should also be hi*h


5/18

5ve uckleyYes, ;oh) have also bee told, by people who followed this issue

closely at the time, that %ise ad his $HI essetially overivested i studet

services for $SD kids ad were tripped up by the yBatie comple0ity of D5 district

school fudi* Ga comple0ity ot su6ered by D5 charters, ad that should bereduced for all our public schools' (hese were professioal errors that eded up

bei* costly for ta0payers' ut the itetios uderlyi* them are ot comparable

to the Hamily Houdatios sheai*as, which ) am certai Se' Sokola uderstads'

)t is truly ufortuate that our public ocials did ot respod to $SD/s errors by

elimiati* some of the eedless comple0ity of D5/s school fudi* policies

comple0ities that DI &I( e0ist for charters'

Connie MerletThat's right, Eve. hatever blame can be laid at the !eet o! Christina in the ise

and immediately "ost# ise era, $% one can say that the money &overs"ent& did not go to

children. nd test scores in those years are "roo! o! that. !ter the so# called bail out (Christinawas given a loan that was "aid back be!ore it was due) Christina's children were hurt by the

stringent measures im"osed by the state and the cost o! the audit. nd Christina has never

recovered.

#im $asey %illiams(he Auditor of Accouts has *oe o record duri* the 9ouse

5ducatio $ommittee meeti*, telli* 9ouse member that charters havi* their

audits doe throu*h the Auditor/s Ice could cost charters less moey' %hat about

all the mismaa*ed or stole ta0payer dollars that did ot make it ito the charter

classrooms, are you cocered about those fuds or 1ust cocered about whether

or ot Delaware $harter Schools &etwork or their lobbyist are happy with the audit

bill.

#im $asey %illiamshttp:LLauditor'delaware'*ovL'''LAcademy2>of2>Dover'''

#im $asey %illiamsAbove is the Auditor of Accouts report o Academy of Dover

Cost

#im $asey %illiams(here are +F schools districts i Delaware with hudreds of

schools withi those districts servi* over +>>,>>> studets ad there are 27
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6/18

charters servi* over +2,>>> studets ad millios of dollars *oe missi* or spet

o persoal purchases over the last three years ad you cotiue to focus o

somethi* that happeed with the $hristia School district a decade a*oyou are

deNecti* the curret issue that there is moey missi* ad o accoutability'

Allowi* charter schools to have cotrol over their -acial accoutability is biased'

Should/t we be focused o our costituets/ best iterest.

(ara Mayew Kreathouse#im, you are ri*ht o poit' (hakful you/re a huma bei*

ad ot a political robot'

David Sokola$ould cost the $harters less moey ' ' ' )/ll bet the auditor/s oce

thou*ht they were savi* $hristia School district ta0payers some moey, too'

#im $asey %illiams(he $hristia School district did ot *o out ad sped moey to

buy persoal items they used their fuds that were for speci-c educatioal areas

o other educatioal areas i the district'

David Sokola(he -acial problems that were foud i a hi*h


7/18

Mike Matthews(his is ot about moey at all, Se' Sokola' )t/s about trasparecy'

Ad let/s 1ust be hoest here: (he charter schools are ot iterested i trasparecy'

See: (he twotimeskilled le*islatio to record all school board meeti*s, icludi*

Districts, votechs, ad charters'

5ve uckleySee also: the Bero oversi*ht i prelottery admissio for hi*hly sou*ht

after charter schools, althou*h that process accouts for the ma1ority of admissios'

GSibli*s. Maybe' $hildre of valuable busiess associates. Maybehow would

ayoe kow. &o records See also the carte blache allowed to $S% i usi* the

iterview black bo0 to ad1ust admissios' "ots of opacity surroudi* these publicly

fuded etities that provides opportuities for malfeasace, but o political will to

eforce oversi*ht'

&atalie Alvii Kac) keep telli* people about how the heads of school at HHA spet

the moey o massa*es, fruit leather sacks, Alicia #eys ad ;oh "e*ed cocerts,

trips across the coutry, Mercedes eB car paymets, persoal home theater

systems, ad E@ers *ames' Y5(, their teachers &585! saw eve a sli*ht raise===

%hatever salary they were hired at, they remaied at for Y5A!S' So, someoe tell

me %95!5 the moey that is allocated by DI5 to *ive their employees step

icreasesLcostoflivi* raises has *oe.

5ve uckleyDave, district school families O sta6 have little faith that you support

our schools, ad this bill appears to co-rm that suspicio' ) %5)$/s charterdistrict

collaboratio committee, we have talked may times about the importace of e


8/18

;ill Shilli*Hamilies have little faith that you support our schools is a

uderstatemet= "I"

5ve uckley) was tryi* to be semipolite= ut yes, it/s a *ross uderstatemet'

smile emotico

;ill Shilli*#udos to you for bei* polite' ) 1ust *et so fed up with these atics=

#im $asey %illiams9ere is a photo of some of the items purchased by a formercharter school leader, this is all public iformatio'

#im $asey %illiams
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9/18

#im $asey %illiams

#im $asey %illiams(he below table outlies the various cate*ories of persoal

purchases for the former leader of Academy of Dover'
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10/18

&atalie Alvii Kac"I"= Do* 9ouse

Devo 9ysoP/9ousehold )tems/

#im $asey %illiamshttp:LLauditor'delaware'*ovL'''LAcademy2>of2>Dover'''

5ve uckley) view these e0peditures from the perspective of a paret adta0payer whose home GO childre/s district seds J2> millio aually G2> of

local fuds to odistrict public schools, icludi* may charters' ) order to meet

this stateimposed -acial obli*atio without added ta0payer support, our middle

O hi*h schools have had to cut all librarias ad may other sta6 Gicludi* MS

la*ua*e teachers' (hese cuts are ot yet su6ered by some local charters, i part

bLc a umber of those schools do ot face the social service eeds that our district

schools do, sice their studet populatios iclude remarkably few lowicome ad

5"" kids relative to the actual studet populatio' )t adds isult to i1ury whe, i

ADD)()I& to the e0isti* i1ustices, our elected ocials refuse to esure that the

moies siphoed from district kids are at least bei* used for public educatio'#im/s bill G+?@ would do that, ad she has a stro* record of supporti* all public

schools' Se'Sokola/s disdai for his 1uridictio/s local school district is, sadly, well

documeted' )t is hard for a $hristia advocate to -d him credible i ay matter

pitti* charter school iterests a*aist those of other public 5d' sectors Gthose

represeti* the ma1ority of families/ ad ta0payers/ iterests i the area he

serves'

#im $asey %illiams%he you hire busiesses that work for a idividual charter

school leader, do you hoestly thik they are *oi* to come back i a audit report

ad tell the perso who hired them who pays their salary hey we foud out who

steali* the moey ad itQs you= (his is why the Auditor of Accouts is a separate

elected oce because they are ivolved i all our state a*ecies ad ot obli*ated

to ayoe but the ta0payers'
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11/18

5ve uckleyCublic accoutability +>+=

;oh #owalko )))50cellet poit' (hat is probably why o other statefuded body is

permitted to choose its ow auditor G(itle 2F, R 2F>@Gc' %hy should we trustcharter schools more ad treat them di6eretly tha every other body that receives

state moey.

5ve uckleyAd eve if oe were to *ive charters this courtesy iitially, why do

that ow that we kow that trust was misplaced, several times over.... A*ai,

oppositio to 9 +?@ is atita0payer'

#im $asey %illiams) caot ima*ie ay charter paret who would ot support

9ouse ill +?@, it protects their charter schools fudi*'

5ve uckley#im $asey %illiamsthat is a e0cellet poit' (he $S& is ot a D5

costituecy' $harter admiistrators, who may balk at this accoutability re


12/18

!ep' %illiam/s 9 +?@ would simply put charter schools ito the same auditi*

process to which all other state bodies are sub1ect' GYour claims re*ardi* the word

all i frot of -acial trasactios i 9 +?@ are a red herri* about which you

should kow better tha to make disi*euous statemets' 9 +?@ is a simple bill

that cha*es oly three seteces i the $ode, ad merely puts charter schools itothe same positio as all the other schools receivi* ta0payer moey i the state'

9owever, your claim is that charter schools should be treated di6eretly' Althou*h

we re7, ad +7>E, which iclude provisios relati* to authoriBed

positios, reporti* over e0peditures, reimbursemet of fuds, ad maiteace of

records' G5ve i R +7>?, ordiary ta0payers are ot permitted to be o charter

school citiBe bud*et oversi*ht committees' Hor public school districts, ay ta0payer


13/18

ca be o the committee, but for charter schools, oly parets ad educators at the

charter school ca be o it' %hy is this ue@Gc reF,

ad 2F+>, which provide, amo* other provisios that:

R 2F>EGa (he audits shall be sucietly comprehesive to provide, but ot limited

to, assurace that reasoable e6orts have bee made to collect all moeys due the

State, that all moeys collected or received by ay employee or ocial have bee

deposited to the credit of the State ad that all e0peditures have bee le*al ad

proper ad made oly for the purposes cotemplated i the fudi* acts or otherpertiet re*ulatios'

R 2F>FGa (he Auditor of Accouts shall -le writte reports coveri* the Auditor/s

post audits with the state a*ecy cocered, the Koveror, the Keeral Assembly,

the Attorey Keeral ad the Director of the Ice of Maa*emet ad ud*et

ad, if the Auditor deems ecessary, the Auditor may preset special reports to the

Keeral Assembly for cosideratio ad actio'

R 2F+>Ga ) coectio with other powers of the Auditor of Accouts, the Auditor

shall have the power to admiister oaths ad compel the attedace of witesses

ad the productio of documets by the -li* of a praecipe for a subpoea with the

Crothootary of ay couty of this State'

Hially, your bill speci-cally removes the re


14/18

ad crossreferece of terms Gas a stated itet i the syopsis, but sice the

syopsis has o le*al implicatios at all, ) am more iterested i your attempt to

eable charter schools to avoid ade


15/18

;oh #owalko )))Also, ) for*ot to poit out that the statemet that 9 +?@/s title was

too arrow to allow it to be ameded with the provisios i S +E+ is false'

Ad it still does ot e0cuse betrayi* a fellow Democrat to side with !epublicas i

protecti* charter schools from havi* the same oversi*ht as every other state

fuded body'

#evi Ihladt) really hate worki* o Sudays' ) always miss the *ood stu6' Do )

have everyoe/s permissio Gaside from publicly elected le*islators to post this o

50ceptioal Delaware.

5ve uckleyYou have mie'

Mike MatthewsYep'

;oh #owalko )))If course'

Matthew "idellKo for it=

&atalie Alvii KacYes=

Susa %illiams(hak you #evi' ) ca ot cut ad paste, so it would be *reat to

have it o the 50c' De website to refer to'

#evi IhladtSeator Sokola, you refereced (itle 2F as ot *ivi* authority for all

e0peses' ) humbly disa*ree: R 2F>E Scope of audits'

Ga (he audits shall be sucietly comprehesive to provide, but ot limited to,

assurace that reasoable e6orts have bee made to collect all moeys due the
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State, that all moeys collected or received by ay employee or ocial have bee

deposited to the credit of the State ad that all e0peditures have bee le*al ad

proper ad made oly for the purposes cotemplated i the fudi* acts or other

pertiet re*ulatios'

#evi Ihladt;ill Shilli*&atalie Alvii KacMatthew "idellMike Matthews;oh

#owalko )))Do ) have permissio or would you wat your ame take out.

;ill Shilli*)f you are referri* to my post o this thread, absolutely' ) realiBe

everythi* o H is public'

&atalie Alvii KacCermissio *rated

#evi Ihladt;oh M' You*

;oh M' You*If course

;oh (hompso%ell )/ve leared a lot by readi* this thread' Most importatly, that

it/s very dicult to de-e what GD meas e0t to a cadidate, whe it comes to

educatio'

Susa %illiams)t/s *reat to read dialo*ue like this about a issue' (hak you David

Sokolaad #im $asey %illiamsas well as the others that are ot our electedocials' Susa Meay %illiams

Devo 9ysoSeator it souded like your issue is the


17/18

charters, cosistet with traditioal ad votech public schools' "et me ask what

may have already bee addressed why ot do both. I aother ote ) am

cocered that the apprehesios ad ideas of the charter etwork were the

foudatios of your bill' %as there ay commuity iput or coversatio. )/m ew to

the thread so for*ive me if this was already discussed

;oh #owalko )))) also for*ot to ask Gsice ) was focusi* more o the actual le*al

implicatios of S +E+, why did you have the bill writte to iclude with a blatat

lie.

%95!5AS, R 7+3Gc of (itle +4 re+3 ad 2>+4, ot have

foud ay of that. Ad AoD/s auditor foud somethi* i the 3rd audit after three

years of their head doi* his thi*' Althou*h ) do/t really kow how much of that is

absolutely true as someoe else was talki* about it o a fake AoD pa*e way before

that based o the timelie they *ave the DI5' %a*er/s oce would kow what to

look for whereas the audit the charters use does/t eve have close to the scope

eeded' ;ust my two cets'''
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18/18

;oh #owalko )))%ait, Sokola seriously blocked you, #evi. Hor what.

Susa %illiamsMy feed was shorteed for a while, the wideed, so it may 1ust be a

*litch'

#evi IhladtMie was too, but ) ca see everythi* a*ai'
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