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NFPA Technical Committee on Cultural Resources

(CUL-AAA)

Agenda

June 15-16, 2010 La Fonda on the Plaza Santa Fe, New Mexico

1. Call to order, 9:00 AM, Tuesday, June 15, 2010 (Freeland). 2. Self-introduction of members and guests (Committee) – Agenda Attachment A.

3. Approval of October 6-7, 2009 meeting minutes – Agenda Attachment B. 4. Chair’s report (Freeland).

5. Staff liaison’s report (Harrington). 6. Review schedule for future committee meetings (Freeland).

i) Fall 2010 (NFPA 909 Pre-ROP) – Sheila Palmer, Steve Rocklin – Hyde Park, New York. (Sheila Palmer)

ii) July/August 2011 (NFPA 909 ROP) – Wolfgang Kippes - Schloss Schöenbrunn -Vienna, Austria.

iii) Fall/Winter 2011 (NFPA 909 Pre-ROC) – Shane Clary, Don Moeller – San Francisco, California (Presidio or de Young Museum).

iv) March/April 2012 (NFPA 909 ROC) – TBD. v) Fall/Winter 2012 (NFPA 914 Pre-ROP) – TBD. vi) July/August 2013 (NFPA 914 ROP) – TBD. vii) Fall/Winter 2013 (NFPA 914 Pre-ROC) – TBD.

7. NFPA 25 comments update (Harrington) – Agenda Attachment C. 8. Discussion on goals for next cycle of 909 – Proposal closing date: 23 May 2011 (Greczek,

McDaniel).

9. Discussion on goals for next cycle of 914 (Watts, Palmer). 10. Portable Extinguishing Agent Task Group report (McDaniel). 11. Update on E.U. Activities (Coull, Jordan). 12. Presentation/update on corrosion issues (Jeff Kochelek, Fire Protection Systems

Corrosion Management, Inc.). 13. GSA Fire Protection Initiatives (Doyle). 14. “Protecting Our Heritage” Task Group report (Kaplan).

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15. Other business (Committee).

16. Adjourn by 5:00 PM, June 16, 2010 (Freeland).

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Agenda Attachment A

Committee List

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Address List No PhoneCultural Resources CUL-AAA

Gregory E. Harrington6/2/2010

CUL-AAA

Deborah L. Freeland

ChairArthur J. Gallagher & Company505 North Brand Blvd., Suite 600Glendale, CA 91203

I 1/1/1988CUL-AAA

William Jackson

SecretaryNational Library of Scotland57 George IV BridgeEdinburgh, EH1 1EW Scotland

U 1/1/1992

CUL-AAA

Clare Ray Allshouse

PrincipalCity of Shoreline, WashingtonPlanning & Development Services17500 Midvale Avenue NorthShoreline, WA 98133-4905

E 3/21/2006CUL-AAA

Nicholas Artim

PrincipalFire-Safety NetworkBox 895Middlebury, VT 05753

SE 1/1/1990

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Robert D. Barnes

PrincipalThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.600 West Fulton Street, Suite 500Chicago, IL 60661Alternate: Martin H. Reiss

SE 1/1/1980CUL-AAA

Eileen E. Brady

PrincipalWashington State UniversityOwen Science & Engineering LibraryPullman, WA 99164-3200

U 11/2/2006

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Steve Carter

PrincipalOrr Protection Systems, Inc.11601 Interchange DriveLouisville, KY 40229Fire Suppression Systems AssociationAlternate: Daniel J. Hubert

M 7/19/2002CUL-AAA

Laura E. Doyle

PrincipalUS General Services Administration301 7th Street SW, Room 2080Washington, DC 20407Alternate: Joseph Dafin

U 9/30/2004

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Wilbur Faulk

PrincipalPepperdine University24255 Pacific Coast HighwayMalibu, CA 90263-4851

U 1/1/1989CUL-AAA

Robert F. Fisher

PrincipalFM Global25050 Country Club Blvd., Suite 300North Olmsted, OH 44070

I 7/1/1995

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Russell P. Fleming

PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.40 Jon Barrett RoadPatterson, NY 12563Alternate: Peter W. Thomas

M 10/10/1998CUL-AAA

Cindy Greczek

PrincipalColonial Williamsburg FoundationPO Box 1776Williamsburg, VA 23187-1776Alternate: Danny L. McDaniel

U 10/4/2001

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Nicolas W. Jordan

PrincipalThe National Trust for England, Wales & Northern IrelandHeelis, Kemble DriveSwindon, Wiltshire, SN2 2NA United Kingdom

U 3/2/2010CUL-AAA

Wolfgang Kippes

PrincipalSchloss SchoenbrunnKultur und Betriebsges, m.b.HA-1130Vienna, Austria

U 7/12/2001

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George A. Krabbe

Principal10648 East Raintree DriveScottsdale, AZ 85255-8527Halon Alternatives Research Corporation

SE 10/1/1994CUL-AAA

Fred M. Leber

PrincipalLeber/Rubes IncorporatedYonge Eglinton Center2300 Yonge Street, Suite 2100PO Box 2372Toronto, ON M4P 1E4 Canada

SE 10/28/2008

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Nancy Lev-Alexander

PrincipalUS Library of CongressConservation Division, LMG-38101 Independence Avenue, SEWashington, DC 20540Alternate: Susan M. Peckham

U 7/29/2005CUL-AAA

Donald C. Moeller

PrincipalThe Fire Consultants, Inc.1276 Durant CourtWalnut Creek, CA 94596California State Historical Building Safety Board

E 7/26/2007

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Wayne D. Moore

PrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.117 Metro Center Boulevard, Suite 1002Warwick, RI 02886-2207Alternate: Cheryl L. Domnitch

SE 1/1/1992CUL-AAA

Kevin D. Morin

PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.215 West 40th Street, Floor 15New York, NY 10018

SE 3/4/2009

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Thomas F. Norton

PrincipalNorel Service Company, Inc.37 Buckmaster DriveConcord, MA 01742-2809Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Alternate: Shane M. Clary

M 1/1/1988CUL-AAA

Sheila Palmer

PrincipalChubb & Son Insurance Company55 Water StreetNew York, NY 10041Alternate: Richard P. Luongo

I 1/15/2004

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Steven M. Peterson

PrincipalUS Department of the InteriorNational Park ServiceAlaska Support Office240 West 5th Avenue, Room 114Anchorage, AK 99501

E 1/17/1997CUL-AAA

Milosh T. Puchovsky

PrincipalWorcester Polytechnic InstituteDepartment of Fire Protection Engineering100 Institute RoadWorcester, MA 01609

SE 10/27/2009

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Steven Rocklin

PrincipalNew York State Department of StateDivision of Code Enforcement1 Commerce Plaza99 Washington AvenueAlbany, NY 12231Alternate: Raymond J. Andrews

E 10/4/2001CUL-AAA

John M. Watts, Jr.

PrincipalFire Safety InstitutePO Box 674Middlebury, VT 05753Alternate: Marilyn E. Kaplan

SE 1/1/1977

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J. Andrew Wilson

PrincipalSmithsonian Institution600 Maryland Avenue SW, Suite 7106MRC 514, PO Box 37012Washington, DC 20013-7012Alternate: Michael Kilby

U 1/1/1980CUL-AAA

Robert D. Wilson

PrincipalNational Gallery of Art6th Street & Constitution Ave., NWWashington, DC 20565Alternate: Ross Merrill

U 1/10/2002

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Raymond J. Andrews

AlternateNew York State Department of State41 State StreetAlbany, NY 12231Principal: Steven Rocklin

E 3/21/2006CUL-AAA

Shane M. Clary

AlternateBay Alarm Company60 Berry DrivePacheco, CA 94553Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.Principal: Thomas F. Norton

M 11/2/2006

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Joseph Dafin

AlternateUS General Services Administration301 7th Street SW, Room 2080Washington, DC 20407Principal: Laura E. Doyle

U 8/5/2009CUL-AAA

Cheryl L. Domnitch

AlternateHughes Associates, Inc.2551 San Ramon Valley Blvd., Suite 209San Ramon, CA 94583Principal: Wayne D. Moore

SE 10/27/2009

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Daniel J. Hubert

AlternateJanus Fire Systems1102 Rupcich Drive, Millennium ParkCrown Point, IN 46307Fire Suppression Systems AssociationPrincipal: Steve Carter

M 3/15/2007CUL-AAA

Marilyn E. Kaplan

AlternatePreservation Architecture43 Marion AvenueAlbany, NY 12203Principal: John M. Watts, Jr.

SE 1/14/2005

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Michael Kilby

AlternateSmithsonian Institution600 Maryland Avenue SW, Suite 7106MRC 514, PO Box 37012Washington , DC 20013-7012Principal: J. Andrew Wilson

U 7/22/1999CUL-AAA

Richard P. Luongo

AlternateChubb & Son Insurance Company202 Hall’s Mill RoadWhitehouse Station, NJ 08889Principal: Sheila Palmer

I 7/26/2007

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Danny L. McDaniel

AlternateColonial Williamsburg FoundationPO Box 1776Williamsburg, VA 23187-1776Principal: Cindy Greczek

U 1/1/1980CUL-AAA

Ross Merrill

AlternateNational Gallery of Art6th Street & Constitution Ave., NWWashington, DC 20565Principal: Robert D. Wilson

U 10/1/1993

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Susan M. Peckham

AlternateUS Library of Congress1600 East Capitol Street, NEWashington, DC 20003Principal: Nancy Lev-Alexander

U 3/4/2009CUL-AAA

Martin H. Reiss

AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.1661 Worcester Road, Suite 501Framingham, MA 01701-5401Principal: Robert D. Barnes

SE 1/17/1997

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Peter W. Thomas

AlternateTyco Fire Suppression & Building Products1467 Elmwood AvenueCranston, RI 02910National Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Russell P. Fleming

M 4/17/1998CUL-AAA

Stewart Kidd

Nonvoting MemberLoss Prevention Consultancy, Ltd.26 Broadway, WilburtonEly, Cambridgeshire, CB6 3RT United Kingdom

SE 4/1/1993

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Stefano Marsella

Nonvoting MemberVia Orti Gianicolensi, 4Rome, 00152 Italy

SE 10/6/2000CUL-AAA

Luca Nassi

Nonvoting MemberItalian National Fire DepartmentComando P.le VV.F. di SienaV.le Cavour 163Siena, 53100 Italy

E 10/27/2005

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Stephen E. Bush

Member Emeritus1850 Kershaw LaneWinchester, VA 22601-6383

SE 1/1/1974CUL-AAA

Charles E. Zimmerman

Member Emeritus8058 Carlton StreetNorfolk, VA 23518-3933

SE 1/1/1985

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Gregory E. Harrington

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

6/29/2007

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Agenda Attachment B

October 6-7, 2009 Meeting Minutes

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MEETING MINUTES

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON CULTURAL RESOURCES

OCTOBER 6-7, 2009 DENVER MUSEUM OF NATURE & SCIENCE

2001 COLORADO BOULEVARD Denver, CO

MEMBERS PRESENT ORGANISATION Deborah Freeland, Chair Arthur J Gallagher & Co William Jackson, Secretary National Library of Scotland Ray Allshouse, Principal City of Shoreline, Washington Nicholas Artim, Principal Fire-Safety Network Eileen Brady, Principal Washington State University Steve Carter, Principal Orr Protection Systems. Rep. Fire Suppression Systems Association Mike Coull, Principal Grampian Fire and Rescue Service Rep. Historic Scotland Joe Dafin (Alt. to L. Doyle) U.S. General Services Administration Laura Doyle, Principal U.S. General Services Administration Michael Kilby (Alt. to J. A. Wilson) Smithsonian Institution Danny McDaniel (Alt. to C. Greczek) Colonial Williamsburg Foundation Don Moeller, Principal The Fire Consultants, Inc. Rep. California State Historical Building Safety Wayne Moore, Principal Hughes Associates, Inc. Kevin Morin, Principal Code Consultants, Inc. Sheila Palmer, Principal Chubb & Son Insurance Company Steve Peterson , Principal National Park Service Steven Rocklin, Principal New York Department of State John Watts, Principal Fire Safety Institute Gregory Harrington, Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association GUESTS

Cheryl Domnitch Hughes Associates Gary Johnson Lubrizol MEMBERS NOT PRESENT Robert Barnes, Principal The RJA Group, Inc. John Blaschik, Principal Connecticut Department of Public Safety Rep. National Association of State Fire Marshals Shane Clary (Alt. to T. Norton) Bay Alarm Company

Rep. Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc. Wilbur Faulk, Principal Pepperdine University Robert Fisher, Principal FM Global

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MEMBERS NOT PRESENT (Continued)

Russ Fleming, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc. Wolfgang Kippes, Principal Schloss Schoenbrunn George Krabbe, Principal Rep. Halon Alternatives Research Corporation Fred Leber, Principal Leber/Rubes Incorporated Nancy Lev-Alexander, Principal US Library of Congress Ross Merrill (Alt. to R. Wilson) National Gallery of Art Thomas Norton, Principal Norel Service Company, Inc. Rep. Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc. Susan Peckham (Alt. to N. Lev-Alexander) US Library of Congress Martin Reiss (Alt. to R. Barnes) The RJA Group, Inc. Peter Thomas (Alt. to R. Fleming) Tyco Fire Suppression & Building Products

Rep. National Fire Sprinkler Association Don Tolliver, Principal Rep. Association of Research Libraries Robert Wilson, Principal National Gallery of Art 1. CALL TO ORDER/INTRODUCTIONS

Debbie Freeland called the meeting to order at 0905.

2. WELCOME Debbie Freeland welcomed the committee to Denver and thanked Nick Artim and Denver

Museum of Nature and Science for hosting the meeting. 3. SELF INTRODUCTIONS OF MEMBERS AND GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

Membership Debbie Freeland welcomed Joe Dafin whose application for committee membership had finally been accepted. Two members had resigned from the committee: Don Bliss due to inability to actively participate and Don Tolliver who had retired. Joe Mazzeo has indicated that he intends to resign from the committee. Danny McDaniel will swap with Cindy Greczek to become principal and Cindy will revert to alternate. A number of applications for membership of the committee had been received, notable amongst them were one from Nick Jordan National Trust for England and one from Milosh Puchovsky. As usual the committee is full, with a significant hold list, although members should not be deterred from proposing someone with special expertise as members of task groups do not have to be committee members. Cheryl Dominitch’s application for alternate to Wayne Moore has been received.

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Attendance Luca and Stefano are still dealing with earthquake recovery, they have sent a note of items that they would like to present to the next meeting related to disaster recovery. In particular the new SAVE-Me project, 2009 Aquila earthquake: organization and activity of cultural heritage damage limitation teams, and fire damage and restoration of a 15th century marble statue. Fred Leber has been ill, a card to be sent wishing him a speedy recovery. Russ Fleming is attending the NFPA 25 committee meeting.

4. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 6-8TH ABERDEEN, SCOTLAND

There were no amendments or corrections to the minutes and they were unanimously approved.

5. CHAIR’S REPORT

Debbie Freeland stated that congratulations were due to Jack Watts who has been named as a recipient of the SFPE’s ‘D. Peter Lund Award’ for 2009. The award presentation will take place at the SFPE annual meeting in Arizona on October 19th. This award was established in 1997 to recognise ‘significant contributions to the advancement of the professional recognition of the fire protection engineer’. The award this year is shared between the seven editors of the SFPE Handbook of Fire Protection Engineering. Debbie Freeland thanked the committee members for a 100% response to letter ballots for NFPA 914 ROC. She asked that new members note that it is important that both principals and alternates respond to all ballots, explaining that the participation of members is reviewed annually to determine which members should be reinstated. Review of Agenda Item 13 ‘Protecting our Heritage’ task group report will be held over to next meeting as Marilyn Kaplan was not present to give her report.

6. STAFF LIAISON’S REPORT Greg informed the committee that NFPA 914 had completed the ROC stage and the deadline for lodging a notice of intent to make a motion (NITMAM) was 23rd October 2009. Assuming that no NIMAM is issued then NFPA 914 should be approved by the Standards Council at the end of October 2009 for publication later in 2009. If a NITMAM is received then it will be carried over until the NFPA annual meeting in June 2010 in Las Vegas. Fall 2008 cycle of NFPA 909 Marcelo Hirschler had submitted a NITMAM for the NFPA annual meeting in June 2009; however, thanks to negotiations with Marcelo, a

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Tentative Interim Amendment (TIA) was agreed to that essentially satisfied Marcelo’s concerns and he withdrew his NITMAM allowing NFPA 909 to be approved along with the TIA, which was incorporated into the text of NFPA 909 allowing it to proceed to publication and issue. Greg sought the views of the committee on how they wished to proceed with NFPA 909 and 914 revision cycles for future editions. In discussion it was agreed that it would be sensible to stagger the documents so that there was an even spread of work with a one time 5 year cycle for NFPA 914 to go to the Fall 2014 cycle and NFPA 909 one time 3.5 year cycle to the Fall 2012 cycle, and that the revision of NFPA 914 follow NFPA 909 to be informed by revisions in NFPA 909. Both documents would then be put on 4-year revision cycles, staggered two years apart. These revision cycles would minimise the number of meetings where there was not timetabled items for discussion so dealing with some of NFPA’s concerns over support to the committee. Proposed revision cycle for submission to NFPA was agreed as; NFPA 909: Fall 2012 cycle NFPA 914: Fall 2014 cycle Twice-yearly committees meetings would be designated as follows: Spring/Summer 2010: NFPA 909 Pre-pre-ROP Fall 2010: NFPA 909 Pre-ROP July/August 2011: NFPA 909 ROP Fall 2011: NFPA 909 Pre-ROC March/April 2012: NFPA 909 ROC Fall 2012: NFPA 914 Pre-pre-ROP Spring 2013: NFPA 914 Pre-ROP July/August 2013 NFPA 914 ROP March/April 2014 NFPA914 ROC The proposed document revision cycles are pending approval by the NFPA Standards Council. Greg informed the committee that there had not been any official response from NFPA management to the issue of withdrawing support for meetings where there was no revision cycle business. The committee hoped that they would continue with status quo.

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7. PRESENTATION BY GARY JOHNSON OF LUBRIZOL ON CPVC BEST PRACTICE AND COMPATIBILITY ISSUES. Chair Debbie Freeland introduced Gary Johnson of Lubrizol inc. to speak to the committee on best practice and compatibility issues in the use of CPVC in sprinkler systems. Thanks to Russ Fleming for arranging for Gary to attend the committee meeting. Gary Johnson introduced Lubrizol as a specialist chemical company manufacturing CPVC powder and pellets for manufacturers to produce Blazemaster products under licence. He proceeded to give a PowerPoint presentation on the listing, testing, training, workmanship and compatibility issues of Blazemaster. Gary explained that Blazemaster was listed under UL 1821 with onerous fire and pressure tests. In one test the pipe is exposed to temperatures between 900 and 1200F for 30 minutes while 32 litres of water per minute pass through the pipe and it maintains integrity. When exposed to fire the pipe forms a protective char; the pipe does not burn by itself and will not sustain combustion. Main uses are in light hazard applications from museums to high rise housing. The product is not approved for use in earth quake zones as it has not yet been tested for this use. Lubrizol placed emphasis on appropriate training for operatives which is a 3 hour programme with lectures and tests in assembling components. Those successfully completing the course were issued with a training card. Key aspects of assembly are that the pipe must be cut square, the ends de-burred and chamfered, the correct glue and applicator used to apply the correct quantity of adhesive, the pipe must then be inserted with a quarter turn fully into the fitting. The quarter turn of pipe/fitting ensures that the glue is evenly spread over the contact areas and the chamfering and de-burring ensures that the glue is not pushed ahead of the fitting to form a pool of adhesive. Gary illustrated these points in his presentation and with samples of joints and pocket cards of do’s and don’ts etc that he left with the committee. Garry explained that there are compatibility issues with some building products and these are listed on web site www.blazemaster.com . The pipe should not come into contact with data or other cabling as polymers in cabling sheaths can migrate and cause stress cracking in CPVC. Committee members felt that this aspect would be difficult to manage over the lifetime of a system especially where pipes and cables were above false ceilings. The committee members asked a number of questions about the product. Summary of main issues discussed listed below. There were concerns over the relative fragility of the material compared to other piping materials Bill Jackson stated that he had experienced incidents in Edinburgh related to contractors rupturing pipes. Pipe will also become brittle if exposed to UV light but will retain its pressure rating. Use of latex water based emulsion paint can protect pipe in

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areas where it is exposed to light. On site it should be appropriately stored to avoid prolonged exposure to daylight. Bill also mentioned his recent experiences of poor workmanship where a joint had blown which is subject of legal action to recover losses. A subsequent audit of similar joints had found many of these were not in conformance with the manufacturers recommendations with splayed cuts to pipe, no de-burring, no chamfering, incorrect insertion depths, too much or too little glue, glue ponding on inner surfaces, glue flowing into sprinkler heads where these had been inserted prior to assembly of fittings. The issues were of such concern that the National Library of Scotland was considering the replacement of CPVC with stainless steel pipes as it could not accept any further disasters related to either the fragility of the material, poor workmanship or incompatible materials. The website www.blazemaster.com keeps the list of materials that are not compatible up to date. There are issues with the use of antimicrobial coatings migrating from steel pipe to CPVC which have resulted in some failures in CPVC. See web site for detailed information. Chair Debbie Freeland thanked Gary for his informative presentation.

8. NFPA 909 TENTATIVE INTERIM AMENDMENT (TIA)

The wording of a TIA was agreed with Marcelo Hirschler and the committee was then balloted approving the wording of the TIA. Marcelo then withdrew his NITMAM and NFPA 909 as amended by the TIA was approved and issued. Note that the TIA automatically becomes a proposal for the next revision cycle of NFPA 909.

9. NFPA 25, STANDARD FOR THE INSPECTION, TESTING, AND MAINTENANCE OF WATER-

BASED FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS

At the Aberdeen meeting, our committee agreed to submit committee comments to the NFPA 25 committee to reconsider our proposals as they had not given a technical substantiation for rejection. Our committee’s response to NFPA 25 was unanimously approved in a ballot after Aberdeen meeting and had been sent to NFPA 25. We await a response from NFPA 25.

10. REVIEW SCHEDULE FOR FUTURE COMMITTEE MEETINGS 1 Spring 2010 (NFPA 909 Pre-pre-ROP so no fixed dates). Proposal for meeting in

Santa Fe approved along with possible date of 15-16th June in the week following NFPA Conference and Exposition in Las Vegas. Eileen Brady will coordinate with staff and keep the committee informed of progress.

2. Fall 2010 (NFPA 909 Pre-ROP no fixed dates) – Consider week of 11th October or

dates in September/October if this date not suitable. Shelia Palmer and Steve Rocklin will investigate whether possible to hold in FDR site (Lower Hudson Valley, New York).

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3. Summer 2011 (NFPA 909 ROP) – meeting to be held between 6th June and 26th August 2011. Wolfgang Kippes will host this meeting at Schloss Schöenbrunn in Vienna, Austria.

4. Fall 2011 (NFPA 909 Pre-ROC) – possibility of De Young Museum or Presidio in

San Francisco was suggested by Don Moeller; he will liaise with Shane Clary to investigate options.

5. March/April 2012 (NFPA 909 ROC) - ?

6. Fall 2012 Ray Allshouse suggested the possibility of Seattle and the gold rush

museum 11. NFPA 909 GOALS FOR NEXT REVISION Danny McDaniel informed the Committee that he would not propose a re-write. Some

issues that needed to be addressed; Security chapter needed to be updated following the shooting at the Holocaust Museum in Washington. American Association of Museums (AAM) had published information from Homeland Security for schools/offices but it is not really applicable to museums etc. Danny indicated that he had drafted a document for basic planning for cultural properties and AAM had put this on their website. Shane has reworked material so that it can go into 909 as appendix material. In the case of the Holocaust Museum they had armed guards but normally museums will not and will have to rely on a police response. For museums the focus will need to be in planning for evacuation and communication with staff and public. Should the museum have a security control room then the operatives in the control room will play a key role. Danny indicated that he has instigated active shooter training for his security staff in Colonial Williamsburg. Unfortunately these kinds of events are increasing in numbers in the period 1975 to 1985 there were 12 active shooter events where 5 or more people were killed. There were 24 such incidents in the first quarter of 2009.

Along with places of worship museums and libraries are vulnerable and target rich with some being more vulnerable than others. All of these need to be addressed in an appendix to NFPA 909. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) held a cultural resources summit which was hosted by AAM. AAM was trying to get cultural resource institutions to form a council to work with DHS to develop protocols etc., for dealing with these issues. At the meeting there were no representatives from small museums or places of worship and it is difficult to see how to engage with these groups. From discussions it was unlikely that DHS would provide financial support. Jack Watts suggested that there could be an opportunity for this committee to be involved especially when 909/914 were not yet in cycle and also to look at the possibility of NFPA working with DHS on these issues and looking at possibility of grants to help set things up. He could look at using vulnerability assessment tool from our code to assess risk.

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The mechanics of setting up a council would involve a lot of administrative work and would need funding. Danny McDaniel stated that this area will need to be progressed within the revised NFPA 909 and he would look at emergency planning and response contacts who could be involved in drafting documentation.

Corrosion issues exact development of this area will need to await the response from

NFPA 25 committee. Danny also informed the committee that the system that Colonial Williamsburg had installed in their collection building to keep water PH levels between 7-11 using Calcium Hydroxide dosing had been abandoned. Crystals were found to be growing from joints in sprinkler pipe-work. This and other issues highlighted the need to provide more and better information in our codes and to take a more conservative approach to materials and design.

There was a general discussion about the quality, the source of materials and fittings and

whether there are metallurgical aspects to the problems. The possibility of designing out risk from collection storage areas so that there was less of a need to install active systems needs to be considered.

Danny will draft proposals for more conservative approach to design of systems for an appendix on these issues including preference for wet pipe systems. Facility reports need to be reviewed and research carried out perhaps by students on fire engineering courses. There are serious risks to institutions reputations from failures in fire suppression systems which could see a tide of opinion against use of sprinklers. Task group to look at issues re-examine 909 and identify sprinkler bias, look at vulnerability issues and how to assist in doing total fire protection with other means. AAM does not require sprinklers in facilities and National Gallery of Art does not lend to facilities which have sprinklers in display areas.

12. NFPA 914 GOALS FOR NEXT REVISION

Steve Peterson felt that there were a number of areas where 914 needed to be strengthened.

Security issues with a security plan focus to be on arson, vandalism and terrorism.

Develop chapter on historic districts Rewrite of Iconic structures chapter More case studies of application of 914 and examples of system

installations. In debating the issues it was felt that iconic structures become iconic over time so would be difficult to cover in a separate code, it was agreed to be in the remit of NFPA 914. Fire is only one threat to these kinds of structures, the threat of terrorism maybe of greater

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magnitude because of their symbolism and so need to consider a different level of safety/security. In some cases protection would be similar to protection of a collection item rather than of a building. Jack Watts suggested that there could be a student research project gathering information from press cuttings on historic district fires to look for similarities and to assess how these might be dealt with. Similarly a questionnaire could be developed to enable a telephone survey from authorities where historic district fires had occurred. This information could then be used to inform the review of NFPA 914. The National Association of State Fire Marshals was looking at the safety of fire service personnel in historic districts fires. This too may provide some useful information. NFPA 914 task group will look at issues in more detail and report at next meeting.

13. COMMITTEE HISTORY

Danny McDaniel informed the committee that he had taken over responsibility for committee history from Steve Bush.

14. COMMITTEE SERVICE AWARD Debbie Freeland noted that Don Tolliver had retired from the committee after many years

of loyal service. Danny McDaniel proposed Don be nominated for Committee Service Award this was seconded by Eileen Brady and unanimously approved by the committee.

15. PORTABLE EXTINGUISHER AGENT TASK GROUP REPORT

Michael Kilby reported that Hughes Associates had completed initial part of Phase 1 of the project with a draft report of the extensive literature review of effects of extinguishing agents on materials and similarly of agents in fire conditions on materials. Information organised in matrix format. The second part of Phase 1 of the project was looking at the dispersal of agent computer simulation. The third stage to look at testing protocols short and long term effects, test chamber discharge in fire and non fire conditions. This will look at how extinguishing medium dispersed and settled on surfaces. To put materials in the test chamber and observing what will happen in fire and non fire condition is extremely expensive so is not practical at this stage. Phase 1 will be completed by the end of December.

16. OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS HALLIBURTON HQ ABERDEEN GASEOUS EXTINGUISHING AGENT INCIDENT

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Mike Coull informed the Committee that there had been an incident where a sever room air conditioning unit had overheated and a gaseous extinguishing agent had been released resulting in the blow out of a partition wall due to the lack of venting to the room.

KENNICOTT MINES NATIONAL PARK PRESENTATION

Steve Peterson gave a fascinating PowerPoint presentation on the work that had been carried out in preserving the old mine buildings at Kennicott, Alaska. From the discovery of copper in 1900 the mine was found to be the richest source of copper ore in the world. By the 1950’s it had been abandoned and was eventually put on to the National Register of Historic Places and has been the subject of a National Park project to stabilize and preserve the remaining buildings. See Wikipedia for more detailed background information on the history of the site.

WITHDRAWAL OF UL1093 STANDARD FOR HALOCARBON CLEAN AGENT FIRE

EXTINGUISHERS George Krabbe had sent a note to the committee confirming that the above standard had

been withdrawn FIRE SAFETY TRAINING FOR PRESERVATIONISTS Jack Watts informed the committee that he is working with Marilyn Kaplan on a basic

fire safety training course for preservationists. The course will look at issues of construction, precautions during construction etc to give a basic level introduction and raise awareness of the issues.

CORROSION IN STAINLESS STEEL SPRINKLER PIPE WORK IN NATIONAL LIBRARY OF

SCOTLAND Bill Jackson informed the committee of the latest problem to be found in the Library’s

sprinkler system. During routine inspections corrosion products, rust stains, were noted at Mannesmann compression joints on the 42mm range pipes. Some joints were removed and were subject to metallurgical examination and corrosion was found to relate to crevice corrosion of the stainless steel along with some signs of chlorine contamination. Further investigation will be undertaken to assess the risks of the corrosion leading to leaks.

In discussion the committee felt that it would be useful if a metallurgist could speak to

the committee. Hughes will check if the Corrosion Institute could suggest a suitable speaker.

Steve Rocklin informed the committee that he was aware of corrosion problems with

corrosion in stainless steel corrugated gas pipes. He would try to find out more information.

UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT PROPOSED PRESERVATION ENGINEERING PROGRAM

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Nick Artim explained that the University of Vermont is establishing a graduate level

program in preservation engineering to educate engineers in all disciplines to work on existing and historic buildings. This will be directed to the various disciplines that work on existing buildings including mechanical, electrical, structural and fire protection engineers. This effort will also likely include a single semester course for undergraduate engineering students. A short course for building/fire officials is also being discussed. The Committee expressed support for the idea and Steve Peterson thought that it could also offer opportunities for internships in the industry.

DENVER MUSEUM OF NATURE AND SCIENCE Nick explained that the museum was the largest natural history museum in the Western

United States, and had been developed over the years with a number of extensions. The majority of the building had a sprinkler system but not the historic inner core. Nick was working with the museum to install water misting systems in the dioramas and collections storage areas to protect the array of museum artefacts, including animal specimens, native people’s artefacts, and geological materials. The proposed system is a Marrioff Hi Fog pumped system with emergency generator back up. Pipe work, fittings and sprinklers are all stainless steel. Work is expected to commence in mid 2010.

17. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 12.00 on the 7th October 2009.

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NFPA 25 Comments Update

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Report on Comments – June 2010 NFPA 25_______________________________________________________________________________________________25-45 Log #48

_______________________________________________________________________________________________Technical Committee on Cultural Resources,

25-99Reconsider Proposal 25-99.

The committee statement for the rejection of Proposal 25-99 reads:“Specialized testing requirements is (sic) more appropriately placed in the occupancy standard.”In accordance with paragraph 4.3.5.1 of the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects, the TC action on

proposals “accepted in principle,” “accepted in part,” “accepted in principle in part” and “rejected” shall include astatement, preferably technical in nature, on the reason for the TC action. Such statement shall be sufficiently detailedso as to convey the TC’s rationale for its action so that rebuttal may, if desired, be submitted during the Commentperiod.It is noted that no technical reason was provided for the rejection of the proposal. Although the issue of sprinkler

system piping corrosion is of particular concern in cultural resource properties, the concern should apply to alloccupancies, and the proposed criteria seek to mitigate the problem; this is not an occupancy-specific issue. Thecommittee failed to meet its obligation to provide a substantive reason for the rejection of the proposal.The proposal is based on information presented to the Technical Committee on Cultural Resources at a symposium on

dry-pipe and pre-action sprinkler system corrosion held September 2008 on Nantucket, MA, sponsored by NFPA andthe Society of Fire Protection Engineers-New England Chapter. Documentation from the symposium is being providedas supplemental information to this comment.This comment was submitted to a letter ballot of the Technical Committee on Cultural Resources with the following

results:Number Eligible to Vote: 30Ballot Results: Affirmative: 26 Negative: 0 Abstain: 0Ballot Not Returned: 4 (J. Blaschik, D. Bliss, L. Doyle and N. Lev-Alexander)Note: Supporting material is available for review at NFPA Headquarters.

This would be confusing to many users because many systems employing water motor gongsdo not require inspectors test connections at the end of the system. The concern for flowing water through the systemcan eliminated by a test connection closer to the system check valve as permitted by NFPA 13, Standard for theInstallation of Sprinkler Systems, for wet pipe systems.

Affirmative: 291 Fuller, D.

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proposals “accepted in principle,” “accepted in part,” “accepted in principle in part” and “rejected” shall include astatement, preferably technical in nature, on the reason for the TC action. Such statement shall be sufficiently detailedso as to convey the TC’s rationale for its action so that rebuttal may, if desired, be submitted during the Commentperiod.

It is noted that no technical reason was provided for the rejection of the proposal. Although the issue of sprinklersystem piping corrosion is of particular concern in cultural resource properties, the concern should apply to alloccupancies, and the proposed criteria seek to mitigate the problem; this is not an occupancy-specific issue. Thecommittee failed to meet its obligation to provide a substantive reason for the rejection of the proposal.

The proposal is based on information presented to the Technical Committee on Cultural Resources at a symposium ondry-pipe and pre-action sprinkler system corrosion held September 2008 on Nantucket, MA, sponsored by NFPA andthe Society of Fire Protection Engineers-New England Chapter. Documentation from the symposium is being providedas supplemental information to this comment.

This comment was submitted to a letter ballot of the Technical Committee on Cultural Resources with the followingresults:

Number Eligible to Vote: 30Ballot Results: Affirmative: 26 Negative: 0 Abstain: 0Ballot Not Returned: 4 (J. Blaschik, D. Bliss, L. Doyle and N. Lev-Alexander)Note: Supporting material is available for review at NFPA Headquarters.

Practical means for drying out system piping and determining that the piping has achieved anappropriate level of dryness have not been identified and are not in common practice.


FELD, J.: The Committee statement should also include:The building owner can always require a system to incorporate items that are more stringent that that required by the

installation standards. For example, while NFPA 13 permits the use of both steel pipe and galvanized steel pipe, theowner may choose the galvanized option to reduce the effect of corrosion. Also, the owner may want to specify a pipepitch greater than that required by NFPA 13 for more efficient and more complete drainage. The owner may want tospecify that return bends for pendent sprinklers are not to be used in the system (which is allowed by NFPA 13) so thatwater will not accumulate in the return bend.

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proposals “accepted in principle,” “accepted in part,” “accepted in principle in part” and “rejected” shall include astatement, preferably technical in nature, on the reason for the TC action. Such statement shall be sufficiently detailedso as to convey the TC’s rationale for its action so that rebuttal may, if desired, be submitted during the Commentperiod.

It is noted that no technical reason was provided for the rejection of the proposal. Although the issue of sprinklersystem piping corrosion is of particular concern in cultural resource properties, the concern should apply to alloccupancies, and the proposed criteria seek to mitigate the problem; this is not an occupancy-specific issue. Thecommittee failed to meet its obligation to provide a substantive reason for the rejection of the proposal.

The proposal is based on information presented to the Technical Committee on Cultural Resources at a symposium ondry-pipe and pre-action sprinkler system corrosion held September 2008 on Nantucket, MA, sponsored by NFPA andthe Society of Fire Protection Engineers-New England Chapter. Documentation from the symposium is being providedas supplemental information to this comment.

This comment was submitted to a letter ballot of the Technical Committee on Cultural Resources with the followingresults:

Number Eligible to Vote: 30Ballot Results: Affirmative: 26 Negative: 0 Abstain: 0Ballot Not Returned: 4 (J. Blaschik, D. Bliss, L. Doyle and N. Lev-Alexander)Note: Supporting material is available for review at NFPA Headquarters.

This is required for all systems and creating a more stringent requirement is within theresponsibility of the occupancy standard.


FELD, J.: The Committee Statement should be more detailed. While the examination of a single branch line along itsentire length may have merit for some occupancies, other occupancies (and building owners) may not be as concernedabout corrosion beyond the minimum requirements of NFPA 25. In addition, if the system used galvanized piping theneed to examine the branch line beyond the minimum required by NFPA 25 is not justified. If the submitter intends for acamera to be used to examine a branch line, it must be realized that cameras small enough to fit into 1 inch diameterpipe are not common and are expensive. The use of a camera is virtually impossible where there are elbows. Asalways, the building owner can examine sprinkler piping to any extent beyond the minimum required by this standard.

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25-172Add new annex text as follows:

For pre-action systems installed level, systems with severe corrosion problems, and systems for whichcorrosion is a special concern, the system piping should be dried through the introduction of dry air or nitrogen beforethe system is returned to service following a trip test where the control valve is completely open and after any operationof the system that introduces water into the system piping beyond the system riser.

For dry systems with severe corrosion problems, and systems for which corrosion is a special concern, thesystem piping should be dried through the introduction of dry air or nitrogen before the system is returned to servicefollowing a trip test where the control valve is completely open and after any operation of the system that introduceswater into the system piping beyond the system riser.

Guidance is needed to help prevent corrosion that has led to premature deterioration of somepre-action and dry sprinkler systems in as little as 3 to 5 years. This guidance is especially needed for existingpre-action systems that were allowed to be installed level, meaning that they do not fully drain following a system trip.The NFPA 13 Committee recognized the potential corrosion problems with such systems and began requiring that suchsystems be pitched beginning with the 2007 edition of the standard. Unfortunately, many pre-action systems wereinstalled in prior years that will not provide satisfactory service lives unless special care is taken to remove waterfollowing operations. This comment was submitted to a letter ballot of the Technical Committee on Cultural Resourceswith the following results:

Number Eligible to Vote: 30Ballot Results: Affirmative: 26 Negative: 0 Abstain: 0Ballot Not Returned: 4 (J. Blaschik, D. Bliss, L. Doyle and N. Lev-Alexander)

This is required for all systems and creating a more stringent requirement is within theresponsibility of the occupancy standard.


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