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^ IS D0CUMENT is the PROPERTY OF HER BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
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CABINET
CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the Cabinet held at 10 Downing Street on
THURSDAY 27 JUNE 1985
at 10.31 am
The Margaret Thatcher MP\V 9x une Minister
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.. heCouncil ^ I Secret ^ olr Ge0ffrpv L X
I V n 0 ^ h O f S t a t e f o r y F e QC MP ^I Affairg0r Foreign and
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I Cancell:r ofS! Laws°n MP
I The Rt > 6 Exche9uer
6Cret£ T 0f^!r Walker MP
| The Rt ^ 3te f r Energy
I Cretarp 0f6g^® Younger MP
1 The R t ^ 3 t e f 0 r S c o t l a n d
l >6Cretar7 ^ ^ t a t S nkin ^I The Rt r tke Environment
Cretarp of Fowler MPI 1 State fnr c •I The Rt Social Services
S e C t e t ^ 0 ^ t K i n g m p
The n 3te for EmPloyment
I CW f : peter Rp :;retary ?6es Qc MP
I I Th e R „ .. r r e a s u r y
I SeCrer :: D ugla<s ur? of St.! Hurd MP
f0r Northern Ireland
.ne Rt Hon Lord Hailsham of St Marylebcne Lord Chancellor
V o e Rt Hon Leon Brittan QC MP /^cretary of State for the Home Department
yo^\^^.Hon Sir Keith Joseph MPScCfc^»ary of State for Education and Science
The IrcJJm^lichael Heseltine MP SecretM ^^^ State for Defence
The Rt Hotf^^ctajlas Edwards MP Secretary c>n >ifate for Wales
The Rt Hon John Biffen MP Lord Privy Seal
The Rt Hon Norman Tebbvt MPSecretary of State r^^??Nde and Industry
Th$ Rt Hon Michael JoprG^/lEMinister of Agriculture, /r^^ries and Pood
The Rt Hon Nicholas Ridley MP/^*v Secretary of State for Transp^^^\
The Rt Hon Earl of Gowrie / / A vChancellor of the Duchy of Lancas^ajXw
The Rt Hon Lord Young of Graffham Minister without Portfolio
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THE FOLLOWING WERE ALSO PRESENTThe R t V ^ v
retary, TreasuryMr John Gummer MP Paymaster General
SECRETARIAT
Sir Robert ArmstrongMr Di.F Williamson (Items 3-5)Mr C L G Mallaby (Items 3 5)Mr C J S Brearley (Items 1 and 2)Mr R Watson (Items 1 and 2)
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PARLIAMENTARY affairs
rating Events (^on^ol of Alcohol Etc) Bill
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NCUth Training Scheme
Ho»* affairs
Lc £l Authority Rate Settin^^^/v
0rthe.v\ Ireland affairs
Foreign affairs
packing of Aircraft of Trans World ^ M i e s
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PAvkA A l O ^ Y The Cabinet were informed of the business to be taken in the House
f Commons during the following week.
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. TtlJrJSECRETARY said that the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol
11, which was designed to deal with the problems of hooliganism\\P^fball grounds caused by consumption of aioohol on the premises or
^ to Lhe 8roun< i had been introduced m the House of Commons. v\>^j>bned that all stages could be taken on 3 July and that Royal
ssent< x ^ c be secured before the Summer Adjournment. The Official ^Ppos 11 ip^j|nd the Home Affairs spokesmen of the Alliance Parties had een c K Z 0 p i d about the content of the Sill and had agreed to^acilitate^/V^ln its present form; but points and amendments would no oubt be pu^rorward by individual backbenchers in pursuit of particular
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LORD PRESIDENT (3f TOE COUNCIL said that the Local Government Bill 3 now passed its tage, but there could still be some problemson Third Reading. It then be necessary to consider how the fourroajor defeats which h a d ^ ^ ^ k inflicted upon the Government should beealt with in the House ^VCatmons. This would present some difficult tactical i , . .
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TH F n \V y J APR1.ME MINISTER said N *£^6\the Cabinet would recognise the
1 faculties involved, but c M ^ a ^ l a t e d the Lord President of the
C11 on the successful pr ogres^^6^£ar.
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^HE SECRETARY of STATE FOR EMPLOYMENT s^Md^th a t the Manpower Services
te miSS:*on ^SC) were meeting that day S e v e r e likely to agree on the Lhe two year Youth Training So erne. It would be a major
*evemen to secure support for this from representatives of both the
aer ederaticn of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress. If . erner 1 vas reached, the Chairman of the MS!/^^wi\ld almost certainly
pa . . *:o S^ve a press conference that afternoon. .Oje^imself would make a Wa • l a m e n t a r y statement early in the following v W K y u t would have to
Preci r tne ^orma letter from the Chairman of the^vM^ysse11ing out the e tc s of the new scheme, before doing sc.
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2 THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT said that Lambeth Borough Council were expected to try to make a rate on Wednesoay 3 July. He understood that opponents of the rate capping legislation would attempt to prevent this by disrupting the Council meeting, if necessary with ^Violence. The police would not be able to intervene unless the person ✓pairing the meeting called them in. In similar circumstances in other
controlled authorities, Mayors had shown considerable reluctance the police to restore order. Although the Otticial Opposition
that they could not condone illegal action, they had not U ly condemned the actions of those local authorities and
who were refusing to obey the law.
THE S tCM^pXry OF STATE FOR SCOTLAND said that he had imposed a rate
thdUCt^ N ^ ^ > Edin r8h District Council but there was every sign that th Coui A/Vj£>uld refuse to recognise the instruction. Grants would erefore withheld and it seemed likely that the Council would runut of m o n ^ to pay their staff by October. If this happened, it might oome necessary to consider the appointment of Commissioners.
PRIME MINISTER£?^s\jtnming up a brief discussion, said that any form of Government. ^intervention, such as Commiss ior.ers , should be
regarded as a laPr^FteVort to be adopted only if the breakdown of essential services yed to be imminent. It would be wrong tontervene short of V h g f jjo * . protect local electorates and councils from
e consequences of e 1 e q^WNex tremis ts .
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sea THE SECRETarT OF STATE FOR N0l£7^^> IRELAND said that the marching 0tl Northern Ireland was nov(^5>&£^.nning and would last until
Most of the events we^^^^^alist ones, but a few were pgQ1?03^ls*■ • As was normal for the t i d t O y t year, the temperature among oeen 6 COncerned with politics in Northe&£ Ireland was rising. This had DeiI) ^lustrated by his meetings on 20 June with tr.e leader of the
UlstCratlC Unionis: Party (DUP), Mr Ian Paisley, and the leader of the the 6r Unionist ? ty, Mr James Molyneaux. The i^^al position regarding Irei marcHes was that it was for the Secretarf(^o$ State for Northern of tt Himself to decide on any bans of marche^y^^sNyne recommendation
of i Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Const^fou^Y • The question res a faring the routes of marches, without ba ftx & y p ] X hem, was the
thesenSlbility f the chief Constable. In recent K f S & X n e nature of (jec^6 events had deteriorated: the element of enjoyirr^^^radition nad0£j.elned. and the element of violence and hooliganism increased,
quest Wlt^ tHe Participation of gangs from outside tw^ /Wca 1 ity in cited10? ex£-ples, the Secretary of State for Nor^h^^\Ireland
s ught * 6 Cases * marches in Castlewellan and Portadtwn. nadt0wn very provocatively, to organise a march in Castiewe1 sma11
0 which the population was overwhelmingly Roman Catholicvy^^>had
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anned this march three weeks previously. The organisers had then
Port^ t0 ^ on 27 June and he had now banned it again. In\v ^ 0WT1 . three Loyalist parades were planned in the following three
e s, which would go through the overwhelmingly Roman Catholic area >£own as the "Tunnel". One of the marches was planned to go through the /Ny>nel four times in a single day a case of blatant provocation. Inv^JJ^Pase of Portadown there was no question of banning the marches, but
Constable would have to decide whether to negotiate or, if impose a change in the route to reduce the likelihood of
Nat i(/rw?Vv. V10^ence • The last event in the marching season would be aQai Procession to mark the anniversary of internment. Mr Martin
(NORa t Northern Aid Committee in the United Statesto ^ raanaged to be present at this event in 1984, might try
6 t a ^ ^ g ain in 1985. He remained banned from Northern Ireland and 0f make every effort to prevent his coming. The Secretary
marche^6 ^ort iern Ireland said that the situation concerning thef diff,WaS 3 new one: but it was serious and would require a serieswe^ lcult decisions. It was possible that not everything would go
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discus THE F0.RE1GN and C O M M D J ^ W SECRETARY said that it seemed that SyrianS1 nS involving the ShiS^/fi^eader, Mr Nabih Berri, and also the States ,autB r i t ies might possrofyb^read to the release of the UnitedP ssib ?staSes fr°m the hi jackec^^^j^xaft who were held in Beirut. One their 1 y was that the hostages iVfgn^Sbe taken initially to Banascus; There anster to a neutral Embassy irjx &eirut had also been dcscussed.
r®leasW0UK^ 3 between the arrangements for their release and theLebanon ^ *Srae f Shi'ite prison£^«r^^ The British Ambassador in British5 Slr Dav d Miers, had seen Mr BeWi/>n 25 June, as part of the
resolufreSP nSe t0 tie United States r f rest to exert pressure for a released°n t^e a^ a*r* There were sigrv that, if the hostages were of subse* S me PeoP^e in the United States might be tempted by the idea Belpful qU6ntly rendering Beirut airport unusable. This would not be Beirut • More helpfully, the United States favofjr^h action to isolate flights aifrport By suspending services there lad JjLaiusing to accept
0 Middle Eastern Airlines coming from Beiru^^n
definitV^S1 C^t’zen Mr Alec Collett, was held in <^^rjon. Nothingmade to f 3 Been heard about him since early May and e | m S ^ v s : e being being h °Ut aB ut bis present position. It appea<t^^hr^ac he wasSuggestf SeParately from the victims of the hijack. T^e^^ere some
releasel0nS .t lat tBe people holding Mr Collett might seek t<$^oargain his steps h a ^ h lnSC t^at f Arabs held in prisons in the Unirs^^-^agdom;
een taken to convey the message that the Government\^T ^iJ^) not
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<\ consider such an exchange. The question whether Mr Collett s release )T uld be arranged together with that of the United States hostages was
explored.
S W i t y ai *ssue of aviation security, it appeared that the Air IndiaIrelaSvT^ wb*cb had crashed into the Atlantic off the south coast of at T ^3 June and the explosion on the same day at Narita airportof have been caused by Sikh extremists. The whole subject
avia6l0^security required new attention. At United States, Canadian ana Rt j • . * , r .insistence, a meeting of the terrorism experts of the seven
lik111* countries had been brought forward to July. There was also to he discussion of terrorism against aircraft during the
ropean Council»qeting in Milan on 28 and 29 June. The subject wouldaY a central /yt5Ta\ in the talks when Vice President Bush of the United
btates visited l^djkon 3 July.
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There was s / m A o forensic evidence to show conclusively that fhe Air India disa^£wv»ad been caused by a bomb.
The Interna Civil Aviation Organisation, which was®®eting in Montreal,'^wfV^nsidering airport security; the United lngdom was represented f^wijisterial level.
The Greek Governme^^/^spite earlier resistance, had now agreed under United States /p^e&uire to bring forward a review of security at Athens airport, anrf/^delegation from the International lr Transport Authority was on^^^pot.
The British Government we^^VaJ^o in touch with the United ates about encouraging othei>v^<Suntr ies to improve airport
security. There was an importantNMifference between the measures needed against hijacking and those needed against bombs on rrcraft. The prevention of hijacking required surveillance of
Passengers. The prevention of bombing reap is ed surveillance of all aggage and cargo on aircraft. This was/aBarge task: a selective aPproach, concentrating on the airlines Imports thought to be m0st a* risk, might be desirable but would p/ s emjt difficulties.
6 N precautions against aircraft terror^^S^ejpuld be totally 6 lable That having been said the British pe^£#ra^nce on airport ecurity could be robustly defended, for instatfjei i . response to
questions in Parliament; it was very good. NonetheJ^*p*. action was hand to consider any possible improvements, and all the
c^ Ce ures to make sure that they were fully impleme^v^£^y^\lt would
th6ar^ c o n t r a r y to the public interest to reveal a^Mcly all t e measures that were being taken. Stories of journal^JV^alking
rough the controls at British airports and reaching hadeen checked and were untrue. / K
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f * The B r i t i s h Broadcas t i ng Corpora t ion had broadcas t anin t e rv iew t h a t morning wi th an American c i t i z e n who had admit ted tha t h i s o r g a n i s a t i o n in the United S t a t e s had t r a ined Sikhs among other s in c e r t a i n t e chn iques of v i o l en ce . I t would be i n t e r e s t i n g to d i s cove r whether I r i s h t e r r o r i s t s could have rece ived t r a i n i n g
) from o r g a n i s a t i o n s such as t h i s .
M i n i s t e r , summing up the d i s c u s s i o n sa i d t ha t i t would be to fol low up a l l t hese ma t t e r s with urgency.
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1 ^ ■ ted the S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for Transpor tto ptTrs^e^ict ion on the ma t t e r s r e f e r r e d to in t'ne d £ / ^ £ <s i on>
I n v i t ed the Fore ign and Commonwealth S ec r e t a r y to iook i n t o the background to the in t e r v i ew b r oadcas t b>’ the B r i t i s V £ > o a d c a s t i n g Company t ha t morning.
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F0R ign AND COMMONU^^SECRETARY recalled that the June session of 6 CoJncil of MinistersXpA&ign Affairs) had issued a strongly worded
Mi^tement about the trade ^F^tices of Japan. The Japanese Foreignnist*y had described statement as "self-serving and
^nacceptaole . The Japanes J^Wp^sador had called on the Foreign and. 0nveslth Secretary at h i S o w ^ request on the previous day, to^escribe the package of measur^Sy^iounced in Tokyo on 25 June. This
red100 ?rogramme included tarift/W^^ctions on 1,800 items; but the EurUCt^DnS Were small and most of frtfe istems were of no interest to the inr°pean Community. in the impq£*1upk case of confectionery, for j ance> there was no change in the f but only an undertaking ofin^300 S F)est endeavours to do s o m e t n the future. The reduction s tariff on whisky was inadeqi^^£^ and unlikely to make aCo®ni^lcant difference to exports tc<<\Japan. The Foreign and
monvealth Secretary had reacted strongly^ to the Japanese Ambassador's Me had stressed that all member states of the European
AffmU ^ a d unanimously endorsed the declaration^ gssued by the Foreign inad 1 Council. He considered the new JaMna^e measures to be au ec,7aTe an<i had expressed doubt as to \^h^tjver the Japanese
or lea and industry understood the extent of/VthyJ problem for the Cor°pea“s He had told the Japanese AmbassadoKZ^frlnfc the European
EuroU wouiH he discussing the matter fur at theHe HaJ5 ,Council in Milan on 28 and 29 June and certaiA^^vthe autumn, that • iS0 caiied for changes in Japanese macroeconomi(Ppm>Oy and said t^e L story of the Bosporous Bridge contract should b^^M^cussed in j C-ganisation for Economic Co-operation and DeveldOTjejy})^ Thev an&iS Ambassador had been left in no doubt of the strengclrjOT^witish
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\ t ea sbort discussion it was noted that the Commission had asked whether 6 United Kingdom would support strong anti-dumping action by the
/ p Promunity against Japan. They had been told that we would do so, where was justified. The changes on tobacco in the Japanese Action am 16 c°uld be helpful to British exports.
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Gove THE f0REIGN AND COMMONWEALTH SECRETARY said that the size of the (p ■ rnment s majority on the Second Reading of the European Communities
Memb31108 June was satisfactory. A good number of Oppositioners i par/iamartt appeared to have been absent or to have abstained.
Memb S 3 m a t , however, that a number of interventions by Parli/i^enjn including Conservative Members, opposed to the
vie 3 been c n c * £ n f ? ( f ) m o r e with making a demonstration of their strong than with the m^trj»nce of the issues.
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Pr ^a^ea:ean MinisFteRElGN AN C0MM0NWE^^^S£CRETARY said that at the Council of regulat^S EoreaSn Affairs) June agreement had been reached on thehacj 10n integrated Meo^ar^inean programmes. The United Kingdom
reachedCCeSS ensured th^^pK^s followed strictly the agreementSfound fSt tbe ^ast European The Greeks would now have no29 June r ra:*s:*nE this point at e^jropean Council on 28 and Workine result demons trated^^tfe value of the United Kingdom sDpi 8 reiationship with the Pre HrS jCfc: of the Commission, Monsieur
iors> on this question.
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(Trans^r1^ F STATE F0R TRANSPORT said that^Ehe Council of Ministers and had rt n June had reached a useful //recent on drivers hoursin dis mac e some progress on discussion of ab^LiJS^a 1 shipping regime, in favoUSS1 n> however, of the judgment of the European Court of Justice
Netherlands f 3 liberal. road transport regime, the^Jjf&^d Kingdom and the liberal’ S bad c ntinued to lfun into strong opposition toChannel Sfa.tlor1, The same problem was also arisingC^rfVt^lation to the for lxed link, since the United Kingdom would free accessiestin^f lorries both into France and through to other
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Kingdom UhSH n * * WaS said that it was unsatisfactory Uni tedwbich ve 3 0pen arrangements for the shipping cabotage c\ a & j j under United v SSe^S other member states could trade freely in of
lngdom ports, while British ships did not have similar W c p ^ X t o
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\ o e cabotage trade elsewhere: the Netherlands, Belgium and the Republic J l Ireland did give such access and, as a result of bilateral ^^PProaches, the Federal Republic of Germany and Denmark had now agreed x\VX\do so, but other member states did not. It was also important to ^ pressure against cargo reservations and to achieve a moreVTT^^frve Community position on some international shipping issues. It Pr!!r \^f helpful if, for the European Council on 28 and 29 June, the
menl£r^^n^S*:er available a note summarising those cases where otherdev actrons did not in practice match their statements on the
6 tle Community and the respect of Community obligations.
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RlfVi Us !eferenCe Cc(85) ,?* Conci 21stMin USlCas nit>ute 3
0£ ^cussion it was noted that it was still unclear whether the Councillnisters (Environment) on 27 June could reach agreement on detailed
1C 6 emissiffa y^tandards consistent with the Council s own broadmi h ment 2Q\Ma)icji. If there were no agreement, some member statesma advise thej|(^yteads of Government to raise the matter in theo^rgins of the Eut^p^j^NCouncil of 28 and 29 June. The Federal Republica ermany was ta^$//\a line which seemed to be contrary to the
waseernent • Marctfp^rtN leas t in relation to medium-sized cars, buta^0nCOnsc:*ous of the illegality if they were to decide to go ithQwee n standards and^^J^cal incentives. The French Government,r. ^er> was taking a r^^f\\line in respect of the agreement already L cached,
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