Evolve Your Brain: the Science of Changing Your Mind
Hi everybody, this is John Assaraf and thanks for joining us for another weekly, expert interview where we bring you great ideas for making more money so you can live that extraordinary life. I have a friend of mine on the call today and you are going to absolutely love this. He has one of the hottest new books that I am telling everybody about and well talk about it in just a second. Joe Dispenza is just an absolute gem of a human being. Hes a top expert on the human brain. Hes someone who Ive studied through my own research. I was introduced to his work through the phenomenal, multiaward winning movie, What the Bleep Do We Know. For years Ive been taking our clients and students to see the movie and talk to them about it. Everything he talks about is right on the money. This is going to be an outstanding call. His new book is called Evolve Your Brain: The Science of Changing Your Mind. Its something you all know Ive studied for years. Its something we talk about and Joe understands inside and out. In the book he teaches why people tend to repeat the same negative behaviors, how to break the cycle and how to open yourself up to the new possibilities that exist within and all around you. And, as always, for contributing to the purpose of living an extraordinary life and for making a
Virtual Coaching with Joe Dispenza Interviewed By John Assaraf Recorded March 12, 2007
difference on this planet, Joe, welcome to OneCoach. JD: JA: Its a pleasure to be with you, John. Joe, lets get right into the book. Youve done some great work in What the Bleep. I know that must have launched your career. And you have a phenomenal understanding of biology, neurophysiology, brain research, etc. What inspired you to write this particular book? JD: I think it was a combination of several different things, John. Just like you, Ive been involved in understanding human potential from the time I started asking the question, Is there more to life? I began investigating every alternative idea that was important to me. I looked into hypnosis. I studied martial arts and yoga. My life was about alternative means of thinking and alternative means of health and looking at reality. In 1986 I had a serious accident. I was hit by a truck in a triathlon. It caused me to stop going at a very fast pace, to begin to ask some deeper questions and to see if some of those principles actually worked. Long story short, I was confined to bed for (supposedly) three to six months. They wanted to do radical surgery. Inside of eight weeks I was back in my office seeing patients. Two weeks later, no body cast, no surgery, no paralysis. If I was able2
to overcome this condition (I had broken six bones in my spine), then I would spend the rest of my life investigating the concept of mind over matter. Thats exactly what I did. JA: It seems we have a similar story. I was in a car accident and I ended up, not because of the car accident, but I ended up with ulcerative colitis and through some research was able to heal myself of that. I decided what a powerful tool we have in our brain, and realized we know nothing about it. JD: I think science is now beginning to scratch the surface. Im sure that any neuroscientist or anybody investigating the brain will say, The sum of the parts is greater than the whole. We dont have any definite answers, but what we do have now is functional brain scans. And functional brain scans give us the opportunity to study the concept called mind. Mind is the brain in action, the brain at work. That little clue has given us volumes of information about a healthy brain and an unhealthy brain. I know you talk about emotions and we are addicted to our emotions. We consistently want to do the same things over and over again. How much potential do we have, as humans, to be able to stop the negative emotions or stop the emotions that are not serving us, and
really help ourselves by doing things differently with the brain? I want to be careful obviously because Im interviewing you. Some of the answers I know. But I want to hear it from your vantage point. JD: First, lets define emotion. Emotion comes from the Greek word emoverae, which means to set into motion. Emotions can be considered literally as something that sets the mind into motion. But I like to think of it as something different. I think emotions are always the end products of experience. When we experience anything in our reality whether were seeing, smelling, tasting, feeling, hearing all of our five senses are immersed in the experience. Volumes of information are being sent back to the brain through five different pathways causing neurons to string together and release chemicals. Those chemicals that are released during that experience mark the experience as memorable. So the end product, the finality of an experience is called an emotion. We can remember experiences better because we remember how they feel. If we understand that, then the question is, How many new experiences have we had, number one. And if were experiencing the same exact emotion everyday, what does it tell us?
And, of course, if were experiencing the same emotion everyday, it means that nothing new is happening. If were experiencing a repeated chemical state, it means that were remembering past experiences to help us remember who we are. If we believe that the quantum field has anything to do with our future, if we believe that thoughts have anything to do with creating reality, if were living the same feelings and emotions, it means were just creating more of the same. So most people think thats normal and, in fact, given a scoop of humanity it really looks normal. But, in the quantum field, there are so many experiences yet to have. And those new experiences, in my reasoning, would create new emotions and those new emotions would have nothing to do with those survival states that we live by every single day. Its not a bad thing to have it. The problem is after theres a stimulus, after theres something that elicits an emotion. The problem is if were repeating the same emotions theres this period after the emotion called the refractory period. Some people have a reaction and that refractory period lasts hours, days, weeks, months, years. And the same chemicals that are being released in the brain over and over again, pushes the buttons, pulls the trigger that activates the genetics that begin to cause the person to live out their genetic destiny.
Were just beginning to understand, in neuroscience, that we can shorten that refractory period. When we shorten that refractory period to any emotion, whether its anger, frustration, or suffering, then every other refractory period for every other emotion is shortened. So, during that refractory period, no new information can enter into the system. You cant learn anything new. You cant do anything differently. As a matter of fact, youll do the same exact thing and expect a different result. JA: JD: Thats insanity, right? Thats insanity. When we develop the ability to gain control over those emotional states by recognizing what they are and rehearsing new ways of being, we not only shorten those periods, but there are even individuals that have been tested with functional brain scans that can actually stop the reaction. This says that we have innumerable potential to no longer be enslaved to the habitual state that most people live in. Westerners think emotions are normal because they feel so real. They are really transient chemical reactions that we continuously live by. The problem is if we continuously create the same emotions, the rush of chemistry gives the body a boost to make us feel a little bit more alive, a little bit more super aware.4
The problem is it wears off and then you have to do it again. But you do it a little bit greater with a little bit more emotion. Next thing you know youre in a repetitive cycle. JA: JD: It sounds like an addiction. You know my definition of addiction has always been, and Ive thought a lot about it, something you cant stop. If youre in the midst of an angry experience, suffering, confusion, or any of those survivalist emotions and someone said to you, Why dont you just stop, most Westerners would give you every reason why theyre feeling the way they feel. Something from their external world made them feel that way. JA: Ive got a client right now who is so stuck on his story that he just cant see it. He doesnt want to break free from the story thats repeating itself over and over and over again. Yes. And every time we tell the story, were creating almost the same exact amplitude of chemistry as if it was actually happening. Thats the key. Thats what emotions do. We can remember those experiences better because we remember the emotions that are tied to them. JA: Interesting. Can the brain, based on the latest research, stop that? Can we do something that will give us the ability to change our reality?
The idea is that if we just look at this particular topic, the question has to arise, Do our thoughts control our emotions? Or do our emotions control our thoughts? Theres an inverse law in the brain. Ive studied this at length. Theres a part of the brain called the limbic brain or the anellian brain; thats the emotional brain. Thats the chemical brain. On functional brain scans, the more emotional the person is, the more they are swamped in their own emotional chemistry. The more activity there is in that part of the brain, the less activity there is in the frontal lobe. Frontal lobe is our seat of self. Its where we have attention, intention, firm purpose, and a sense of identity, a sense of awareness. The more action and execution over their impulses, the more they have control over themselves and their life. If theres less activity in