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Australian Plants Society

Yarra YarraGroup Inc

(Incorporation No. A0039676Y)

Newsletter April 2019General Meeting: April 4th at 8pm

Claire Farrell & John Rayner : Melbourne Woody Meadows ProjectClaire Farrell is a Senior Lecturer in Green Infrastructure, based at the Burnley Campus of The University of Melbourne. Her main research interest involves using plants to make cities more liveable. Claire has a PhD in plant ecology and for the last 9 years her research has focused on developing green roofs for Australian conditions. As green roofs are difficult places for plant to survive, much of her research has focused on the drought tolerance and water use strategies of native Australian plants, including granite outcrop vegetation. This world leading research has been published internationally

and key recommendations have also influenced policy and practice. Other research includes plant selection for green façades, rain gardens and low maintenance shrub plantings.

John Rayner is an Associate Professor and Director of Urban Horticulture at the University of Melbourne. His research and teaching is focussed around the design and use of plants in the landscape, including green roofs and walls, climbing, shrub and ground cover plants and therapeutic landscapes. Based at the Burnley Campus, John is a passionate educator, has published widely and regularly acts as a landscape and horticultural consultant. He is a keen gardener and in his spare time gains great joy from nurturing and torturing plants on his 1 ha garden in the Dandenong Ranges.

VOLUNTEERS PLEASE FOR

Saturday April 13th PLANT SALE

We need volunteers for the Plant & Book Sale on Friday afternoon (12th April) from 3pm to 6.30pm

to help set up trestles and help growers carry in their plants. And also for Saturday from 7.30am to

10am, 10-12noon, 12-2pm, and 2-4pm.

See final page, p10 for more details

GARDEN VISIT

Sunday 14th April 2 pm

Rosanna Parklands with APS Maroondah.

Led by Margaret James.

See P 2 for more detail.

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More Garden Visits, APS YY matters & Diary DatesMore Speakers:

2 May. Simone Louwhoff. Lichens. 8 June. Zac Walker. Alpine Flora and Samba Deer.

8 July. John Harris. Wildlife Experiences P/L

1 Aug. AGM & APS YY Grand Flower Table

5 Sept. TBA

3 Oct. TBA

7 Nov. Grand Flower Table

5 Dec. Members Slide Night & Xmas Party

27-31 March, Melbourne International Flower & Garden Show (MIFGS). APS Vic has a stand & Ben Hutchinson a garden (check number!)

13 April - APS Yarra Yarra Native Plant & Book Sale. At Eltham Senior Citizens Centre, 903 Main Road, Eltham from 10 am to 4 pm.

27 April – APS Geelong Australian Native Plant Sale at ‘Wirrawilla’, 40 Lovely Banks Road, Lovely Banks. (Mel 431 D6).

4 May - APS Mornington Peninsula Plant Sale, from 10 am to 3.30 pm, at Seawinds in Arthurs Seat State Park, Purves Rd, Arthurs Seat 3936. For further details call 0428 284 974.

4 May – Cranbourne Friends Annual Lunch in Tarnuk Room, Australian Garden. Guest Speaker is Dean Stewart.

11 May APS Melton & Bacchus Marsh Plant Sale at St Andrew’s Uniting Church, Gisborne Road, Bacchus Marsh. From 9 am to 1 pm.

15 June – APS Geelong host Committee of Management meeting.

14 & 15 September - APS Yarra Yarra Australian Plants Expo, Eltham Community & Reception Centre, 801 Main Road, Eltham. 10.00 am to 4.00 pm. ANPSA 2019 Conference – Blooming Biodiversity – 30 September to 4 October, hosted by Wildflower Society of Western Australian in Albany, WA. Comprehensive background and conference outline fills the whole edition of Australian Plants, Spring 2018, vol 29, No 236. For more Details www.bloomingbiodiversity.com.au. Bookings NOW open for conference and Pre & Post Tours. Several Tours are now fully booked. Be quick.

Sunday 14th April 2 pm Garden Visit to Rosanna Parklands with APS Maroondah. Led by Margaret James.

This area, previously a golf course of 101 acres, was doomed to be fully subdivided in the late 1960›s but strong objection by residents resulted in half being left as parkland. Merchant Builders was chosen to develop the other half with a unique cluster housing development. The architects aimed at linking housing with the natural environment so the courts ended with easy access to the parklands. It was the first housing estate to have underground wires, no concrete footpaths, lawns to the kerb. House design and landscape were crucial to achieve an overall unified appearance.

Ellis Stones was commissioned to design each garden and Bev Hanson supervised the construction of some. The plants were to be all Australian. Ellis was also retained by the then Heidelberg Council to landscape the park and was successful in overturning the MMBW intention of barrel draining Salt Creek which runs through the park.

We meet at the home of Margaret James, APS member and long time resident. After a brief introduction, we’ll take a walk into the park to view the memorial garden designed by Bev Hanson and the new landscaping under the railway bridge, which recently replaced the boom gates on Lower Plenty Rd. We’ll return to Margaret’s house for afternoon tea.

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Meeting Report, March 7 - Mint Bushes and Allied Genera

APS Yarra Yarra will host the 13th FJC Rogers Seminar in October, 2020. Our topic is Mint Bushes and Allied Genera or in scientific parlance LAMIACEAE subfamily Prostantheroideae ( see inset, p 4 for detail). The Lamiaceae family is huge with many highly aromatic species and so we have chosen a particular subfamily within which the Mint Bushes, Prostanthera has the greatest constituency with over 90 species and counting. The FJC Rogers Seminars are held every two years in honour of Fred Rogers, a passionate advocate for Australian Plants who was instrumental in increasing interest and numbers within APS Victorian groups. The Seminars are intended to be educational with the aim of improving our scientific understanding of the plants.NSW has the greatest number of Prostanthera species with over 65 species occurring there. The Cradle of Incense by George Althofer was published by APS NSW in 1978 and remains the bible of the fraternity with detailed descriptions of Mint Bushes from all over Australia. The taxonomy updates since then are ongoing with many more species becoming more clearly defined with research. This book however remains an important guide and makes for entertaining reading.

The Genus, Prostanthera was named by Jacques-Julien Houtou de Labillardiere, a French Botanist on the Bruny D’Entrecasteux voyages around Tasmania in 1972-73. From the Greek prostheke – an appendage & anther refering to an appendage on the anthers of many (but not all) Prostanthera flowers. Prostanthera lasianthos was the first named and the type specimen. It is the largest of the mint bushes (from 2 to 10 M) with the widest distribution, from southern Qld to Tasmania, coastal to sub-alpine levels. While it likes moist shade it will grow in full sun but is best as an understorey to Wattles and

Eucalypts, with late afternoon shade. Lasianthos means fine hairs, the flowers are coated inside and out with them, a distinctive feature of this particular and very beautiful species.

Many of the most commonly cultivated species hail from NSW and include Pros ovalifolia, rotundifolia & incisa. These occur in several colour forms which include purple, pink and sometimes white. They also come in varied leaf sizes. Victoria has some 35 species which include Pros melissifolia, cuneata and the rare, endemic and stunning Prostanthera galbraithiae (named in honour of the late Jean Galbraith) from East Gippsland. One of two remaining populations of this species were recently burnt. We hope to have plants for sale from our East Gippsland source.

The species within Prostanthera can be divided into two sections or types based on differences in flower morphology, particularly the corolla & calyx. (An aside: it is the two-lipped calyx that distinquishes Prostanthera species from Westringia which have 5 lips). In Prostanthera section Prostanthera the corolla tube is short, narrow at the base and widening into a bell shape. The upper lip is erect & broad with two lobes and is shorter than the lower lip which is three-lobed with the middle larger e.g. Pros lasianthos, cryptandroides, cuneata. In Prostanthera section Klanderia the corolla tube is thinner, elongated, with the upper lip concave and the lower lip similar in length e.g. Pros aspalathoides, calycina & walteri. These two sections/types are predominantly pollinated by bees and birds respectively with some intermingling of both. More recently a third type – pollinated by beetle & fly has been recognised Wilson et al (2017).

Image: Prostanthera lasianthos, showing the fine hairs that cover the flowers & an insect visitor.

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Meetng Report: Mint Bushes etc by Miriam FordWhile many mint bushes like shaded moist conditions many have broader tolerances as mentioned for Pros lasianthos. There are a number of mint bushes that thrive in dry, hot conditions such as Pros aspalathoides, the Scarlet Mint Bush (also orange, yellow and white forms) from the semi-arid regions of NSW, VIC and SA; Pros magnifica, the stunning mauve-purple corolla with gorgeous burgundy shield-like calyx form the hot dry northern wheatbelt of WA and the striking striped Pros striatiflora from the semi-arid woodlands of NSW, SW, WA, Qld and NT and the handsome, long flowering Pros eckersleyana, also northern sandplains, WA. We are propagating all of these species for sale at the seminar. Several will also be available in grafted form from Phil Vaughan.

A distinctive feature of many of the mint bushes is their minty aroma which arises from the volatile oils released from the many glands present on leaf and calyx surfaces when one brushes past a plant. There is a lot of interest in the essential oils of Prostanthera species both with a view to commercial applications (natural product discovery research) and also with regard to their taxonomic utility. Recent studies show that fine detailed analysis using gas chromatography and mass spectroscopy reveals unique species markers that will assist, along with DNA studies, in the systematics of species within the Genus.

This is an exciting time to be growing and propagating Prostanthera and for disseminating knowledge and plants more widely. We are doing our bit for the preservation and cultivation of a quintessential and most redolent Aussie. Let us know if you can assist us with the organisation of the seminar and/or propagation.

Inset: There are 17 genera within the Prostantheroideae subfamily: Brachysola – Chloanthes – Cyanostegia – Dasymalla – Dicrastylis – Hemiandra – Hemigenia – Hemiphora – Lachnostachys – Microcorys – Muniria – Newcastelia – Physopsis – Pityrodia – Prostanthera – Quoya – Westringia. Many you may not have heard of these before, I hadn’t. Many of them have small numbers of species, with spectacular flowers and are endemic to WA with very specific growth requirements, one might even say fusspots when away from home. Some examples include Brachysola, 2 species WA, Cyanostegia,(Blue Tinsel Flower, WA mostly & NT) , Dasymalla 5 species (Includes Dasymalla terminalis, native foxglove), WA; Dicrastylis, > 30, WA mostly; Hemiandra, 6 including Hemiandra pungens; Newcastelia, 10 species WA & Pityrodia, 20 species, WA. We will be doing our best to source some of these plants but our focus will be Prostanthera and Westringia. Ajuga and Plectranthus while Lamiaceae, are not within this subfamily.

Images: Prostanthera teretifolia (top)& striatiflora

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On a warm February evening, a keen group of members were fortunate to experience a night of “learning and discovery.” Rick, our host, made us welcome and talked to us about the recent (50 years) history of the sanctuary and establishment of LaTrobe University. He spoke of the preservation and re-generation of some 30 hectares of former farmland and recreation ground on the floodplain of the Darebin Creek — remnant River Redgum Grassy Woodland. The initial aim was to create a space for the filtration and retardation of stormwater from the surrounding areas, then the creation of the sanctuary, increasing the biodiversity within with protection of the animals on the inside and the facility as an educational resource.

As we set off, we were told of the foxes’ determination to break into the larder and the eventual construction of an impressive predator proof fence. We spotted Eastern Grey Kangaroos, Possums with ring and brushy tails. We paused by now drying-up wetlands. No frogs tonight…perhaps a tree frog? Rick told us of the pest Gambusia fish introduced into our waterways in the mistaken belief that it would control mosquitos & instead decimating fish, frog and other animal populations,

increasing algae blooms and reducing water quality.

As we moved on, the sugar gliders were doing their thing. Rick reminded us of the importance of hollows in the old trees and the use of nest boxes. He took us by a large recently fallen redgum – a long story, then some impressive old river reds. There were microbats flitting about & we met Old Man Emu, a sole remaining survivor of a pair placed into the sanctuary some time ago. We learned of the delicate balance and the intricacies of introducing various new species into this fragile environment.

The people at the LaTrobe Wildlife Sanctuary and Indigenous Nursery and the volunteers who help them have achieved a great deal and continue to reach out to teach all of us of the importance of maintaining the ecosystems threatened by Melbourne’s development. They encourage us to do our combined bit to increase biodiversity. We need to support them and encourage others as well. Volunteers are always welcome. (Image: by Anita Bourke, imagine night has fallen and the group is lined up on the bridge looking over the water, watching & listening. Inset: Microbat nesting box and Microbat, from La Trobe WS website)

La Trobe Wildlife SanctuaryTwilight Tour, Feb 28 by Peter Smith

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MarchFlower Table - by Jill Lulham & Miriam Ford

Thanks to Mike Williams and Miriam for presenting. Ben for photos, and also Rob on the Doc Camera.

MYRTACEAE FAMILY: Beaufortia sparsa (growing in sand garden. Bright orange flowers at this time of year. From Mike W’s garden)

PITTOSPORACEAE FAMILY : Marianthus bicolor (WA, 1-2m, spreading shrub or climber, flowers Dec to May. From Mike W’s garden)

RUTACEAE FAMILY: Correa ‘Warrandyte Wonder’ (Mike’s plant going well. Originally collected by Noel but his died. From Mike W’s garden)

FABACEAE FAMILY: Acacia jibberdingensis (long flowering medium shrub, eye catching. From Mike W’s garden)

PROTEACEAE FAMILY: Grevillea thyrsoides (long scapes with scrappy flower at end, lovely foliage. Do not be tempted to prune off flowers. From Mike W’s garden); G. ‘Peaches and Cream’, (long flowering, bunch from Lee’s garden); G. hybrid ‘Cherry?’ (pteridifolia X formosa X banksia. From Lee’s garden); G. ‘Moonlight (meant to be something else, a grafted plant from Phil with only the graft surviving. Communicated to Phil. From Rob D’s garden)

Lambertia formosa (Mountain Devil. NSW, 2m, full sun, part shade, good drainage, has lignotuber. From Mike W’s garden)

APIACEAE FAMILY Actinotus helianthi (Flannel Flower. Self seeds in sand garden and this is best way to grow so that you keep it going as otherwise difficult to propagate. From Mike W’s garden)

LAMIACEAE FAMILY: Please note - the following detailed plant notes are provided for those who purchased the Mint bushes at the General Meeting Prostanthera ovalifolia (Erect medium shrub. 2 - 4 m. Leaves dull green, ovate, lanceolate, Profuse flowers in short terminal racemes. Corolla purple, sometimes pink or white. NSW, Qld. Part-shade to full sun but not hot western sun. Good drainage)

Prostanthera ovalifolia, variegata (Aromatic medium shrub. 2 – 4m. Leaves deep green with cream outline, ovate, lanceolate, Profuse purple to mauve flowers in short terminal racemes NSW, Qld. Spectacular even when not in flower. Part -shade to full sun but not hot western sun. Good drainage)

Prostanthera nivea (Snow White form. Tall bushy

shrub to 3m, Leaves sessile, linear, Flowers axillary, often crowded towards ends of branchlets, Large with prominent calyx. NSW Vic, Qld. Full sun/ part shade, good drainage)

Prostanthera baxteri ssp sericea (Erect shrub, 1 – 2m X 1m. Leaves greyish, terete to 1.5 cm long. Foliage and stems white, flowers large axillary lavender. From WA near Albany. Full sun/ part shade, good drainage)

Prostanthera scutellarioides (A small to medium shrub 1 X 1m. Leaves linear, acute up to 1.5 cms long. Flowers axillary, small deep purple. NSW Qld. Full sun/ part shade, good drainage)

Prostanthera incisa (Variable spreading shrub, highly aromatic,1 – 2m, Leaves toothed, light green, flowers in short racemes, pale mauve. From NSW. Full sun/ part shade, good drainage)

Prostanthera cuneata. (Aromatic very compact, dense shrub. 1m X 1m, Leaves bright shiny green, flowers axillary and crowded, large white with violet or purple spots. Tolerates variety of conditions, shade to full sun but not hot western sun. Good drainage)

Prostanthera aspalathoides: Red form. (Aromatic small heath like shrub, upright to 1m. Leaves linear-terete, crowded on small branches. Flowers axillary, scarlet or red. From NSW, Vic, SA. Full sun/ part shade, good drainage)

Prostanthera teretifolia: Blue form. (Aromatic bushy shrub 1–2m X 1m. Leaves greyish, crowded, terete to 1.5 cm long. Flowers large from violet to royal purple. From NSW near Torrington, granite outcrops. Full sun/ part shade, good drainage)

Three of the above were Raffle Plants: P. aspalathoides, teretifolia, ovalifolia variegata.

Images from Ben: Above :Acacia jibberdingensis, & see p 10 for Beaufortia sparsa,

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Images from Ben Eaton (top 2)& Rob Dunlop (lower 4)

Images clockwise from top left - Lambertia formosa, Grevillea Lee J, G. Moonlight, Marianthus bicolor & G. thysoides

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Report: APS Vic Committee of Management Meeting: Saturday March 2nd.Banks Solander 2020 Commemoration. The year 2020 marks the 250th anniversary of the exploration of the east coast of Australia in 1770 by Captain James Cook on the Endeavour. The extraordinary abundance & unusual nature of the diverse flora collected by Joseph Banks and Daniel Solander excited the botanic world and ultimately led to settlement of the new colony. Alex Smart & Dallas Boulton have proposed a wonderful commemorative display to be held during Autumn 2020 at the Federation Estate building in Ringwood. The Melbourne Herbarium will loan six original Banks herbarium sheets and up to 30 high resolution photos of other Banks herbarium sheets for display. APSV will pay for the framing of the photos and will also request that they be made available for APSV to use from time to time. There will also be several other displays and a talk by Professor Tim Entwistle of the Royal Botanic Gardens.

Online membership: APS Vic web administrator, John King demonstrated a potential on-line membership management system which would operate through the APS Vic website. There is the potential to greatly reduce the workload for membership officers at both DGs and APSV and increase the flexibility of the system. There was general enthusiasm for the idea although many details need to be sorted out. The sub-committee formed at the December 2018 meeting will continue to develop the system until it is ready for a proposal to be put to the COM.

Conservation Report: Neil Marriott reported on the ever increasing rate of loss of rare and endangered plants across the country, especially in the high country, as a result of increased extreme weather events. The loss is further exacerbated by indiscriminate roadside clearing, especially in WA

From the Growing Australian Newsletter Editor: The PDF version of the March issue of Growing Australian is available on the website and can be downloaded from the members’ area using your password. Lachlan appealed for more contributions. As a guide a full page needs about 500 words depending on how much space is taken up by photos. If they do not have enough material they will cut back the number of pages.

MIFGS 2019: Dallas Boulton reported that plans are well underway. The display will be similar to last year. They have new fridge magnets to hand out instead of leaflets. 3 magnets were distributed to

each District Group and more can be supplied on request.

There will be 2 speakers on the main stage in the Great Hall – Glen Yearsley on Thursday 28th from 11.30am to 12.30pm and A B Bishop on Saturday 30th from 3.30 to 4.30pm. It would be good if members attending the show could be there for one of these presentations, especially to ask questions.

I reported on our progress with regard to the FJC 2020 on 24 & 25 October at the Eltham Community and Recreation Centre. I expressed some concern about the large amount of work involved and the need to protect volunteers from burn out as it is usually the same small group of people. I acknowledged the advice provided by Royce on a number of issues. I had produced a new promotional video which was played before I spoke. From Chris Long’s notes: The video was of excellent quality and well received.

Future COMM meeting dates and host: Saturday, June 15th, 2019, hosted by APS Geelong, November 2019, hosted by APS Bendigo Incorporated, Saturday March 28th 2020, hosted by APS Maroondah, Spring 2020 hosted by APS Warrnambool.

APS Vic is looking for District Groups to volunteer to host meetings for August/September (including AGM) 2019 and two meetings in 2020.

Banksia serrata, one of the first

species discovered at Botany Bay and

the Herbarium sheet on the

species

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APS YY Financial Matter - Mike RidleyAs many of you will know the group require a couple of members to fill financial positions – one for the FJC Rogers seminar and one for the Treasurer of the group. The FJC Rogers seminar requires financial assistance right now. The Treasurer’s position requires a group member at the next AGM in a few months’ time.

To encourage a whole host of applicants the Committee intends to change the positions to simplify the roles.

The committee intends to outsource the data entry, financial reporting and administration to a bookkeeper. In other words the role of the Treasurer does not require any computer skills, no software package knowledge necessary the role is now to:

• Take overall responsibility for the finances and to liaise with the bookkeeper.

• Sit on the main steering committee and contribute to the financial decisions.

• Handle the cash transactions i.e. monthly sales and door entry cash; April and September plant sales transactions and monitor the bank account.

The job is no more complex than managing your everyday household finances.

The group as a whole will have to bear the costs of outsourcing to a bookkeeper so the membership fees are likely to rise; this has to be put before the membership at a formal meeting or at the AGM. If an external bookkeeper is used then this only partially solves the problem of the Treasurer’s position - whatever happens, the group is constitutionally bound for a member to hold the Treasurer’s position.

Ed: This is now a matter of some urgency. We will be outsourcing to a bookkeeper if no one comes forward. Even with the assistance of a bookkeeper we will still need a person in the position of treasurer in the committee taking care of tasks as detailed per the dots points above. I would also like to add that we are hugely indebted (metaphorically speaking) to Mike who has been in the treasurer’s role for 5 years and prior to that was Secretary. His work has been exemplary. Thank you Mike!

The Eltham North Primary School Sale: APS YY Growers were invited and we took along some plants from La Trobe as well. We sold around 90% of our plants & some 40 tubes for La Trobe. We tried out our new PayPal system which worked well so we can be confident of it at our April 13 Sale. Images: Clockwise from the top - Suzie, Sonia and Miriam amongst the plants with their lovely signs by Jill & Jo , Suzie champion at reversing down the narrow access, Sonia with paper daisy bouquets by Jenny, popular giveaways.

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Committee, Newsletter Contributions & General Meeting matters

Meeting Particulars: Visitors always welcome

When: 8 pm 1st Thursday each month (except January). Doors open 7.30 pm. Come early for plant sales.

Venue: Orana building, Araluen Centre. 226 Old Eltham Rd,Lower Plenty.

Guest Speaker:Learn more through talks and discussion by expert speakers

Audience etiquette: No interruptions to the speaker during the talk, questions (one only per person) at the end when requested.

Flower Table Specimens: Bring along your flowers, labelled if possible

Plant Sales: Members may buy or sell their own plants, unusual varieties are often available

Chairs: Members please help set up chairs from 7.30 onwards and put away again after the meeting.

The APS Yarra Yarra Committee:

•Miriam Ford (President, Newsletter Editor, COM delegate, Propagation Gp) M 0409 600 644

•Mike Ridley (Treasurer & Multi-media Tech guy) 0418 322 969

•Joanne Cairns (Secretary & Co-editor of website & Facebook page, Propagation Gp) 0425 760 325

•Carmen Cooper (Membership Officer, Propagation Gp) 0413 012 045

•Adrian Seckold (Minutes Secretary & meeting plant sales) 0431 071 503

*Peter Smith ( Garden Visits) 0425 798 275.

Some APS YY Committee Meeting Dates:

General APS YY Com Meeting: 9 April, Mike R’s

Next FJC 2020 Com meeting: 21 May, Miriam’s

Contributions to the 2019 May APS YY News to Miriam by 19 April please

Email: miriamdfc30@gmail.com OR post to Newsletter editor APS Yarra Yarra PO Box 298, Eltham 3095 Thank you to Peter Smith, Jill Lulham & Mike Ridley for articles, Jill and Joanne for proof reading, Ben Eaton, Rob Dunlop for images. Editor (MF) for all other images & articles other than where acknowledged from the net.

We wish to acknowledge the major sponsorship of our Expo by Hume Bricks & Pavers Pty Ltd.

Thank you to Vicki Ward’s Office for printing

Image below: Beaufortia sparsa (Ben Eaton)

13 April Plant SaleEarly Saturday jobs will be erecting marquee (4 people), taking all excess chairs and tables out under marquee and covering with tarpaulins if needed, bringing in flowers to put in tubs for display, helping growers bring in plants to their stalls.

We ideally need at least 7 people on each 2 hr slot from 10am to 4pm - 2 on books, 2 on YY plant sales, 2 to help customers, and 1 on door to direct customers and take sample of postcodes etc.

We will have a volunteer sheet at April meeting, but members can also email apsyarrayarra@gmail.com or phone Joanne Ph 94320409 to be put on roster if you aren’t at the meeting.

OVERDUE LIBRARY BOOKS: A request from our librarian Jenny Hedley to please return your overdue books - there are still some outstanding from last year.