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SHANNON L. TAYLOR, CCR, CSR, RMR

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TRANSCRIPT OF A MEETING

OF THE

STATE OF NEVADA

PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS LICENSING BOARD

Thursday, June 14, 2018

9:00 a.m.

Northern Nevada Location:

Office of the Attorney General

100 North Carson Street

Mock Court Room

Carson City, Nevada

Southern Nevada Location (Videoconferenced):

Grant Sawyer State Office Building

555 East Washington Avenue

Attorney General Conference Room, Suite 4500

Las Vegas, Nevada

REPORTED BY: SHANNON L. TAYLOR, CCR, CSR, RMR

Certified Court, Shorthand and Registered Merit Reporter

Nevada CCR #322, California CSR #8753, Idaho CSR #485

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PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS LICENSING BOARD MEETING, 06-14-18


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A P P E A R A N C E S

Board Members:

Mark Zane, Chairman (Las Vegas)

Jim Colbert (Carson City)

Raymond Flynn (absent)

Jim Nadeau (Carson City)

Tammy Nixon (absent)

Also: Kevin Ingram (Las Vegas)

Executive Director

Rosalie Bordelove (Las Vegas)

Deputy Attorney General

Board Counsel

Gisela Corral (Las Vegas)

Licensing Specialist

Shelly Donald (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Vincent Saladino (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Paul Maxwell (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Zachary Swarthout (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Shawn Mahan (Carson City)

Investigator

Mary Klemme (Carson City)

Investigative Assistant

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Other Participants:

Daniel D. Crate (Las Vegas)

Michael M. Morris (Las Vegas)

Stephen F. Krueger (Las Vegas)

Garnetta Brown (Las Vegas)

Dan E. Taylor (Las Vegas)

James N. Smith, Jr. (Carson City)

David M. Staretz (Las Vegas)

Dmitry Belkin (Las Vegas)

Pamela D. Cureton (Las Vegas)

William J. Luttig (Las Vegas)

Dree A. Cellemme (Las Vegas)

Nichole M. Harrison (Las Vegas)

Stephen F. Krueger (Las Vegas)

Matt Koetting (Las Vegas)

Michael Dichiaro (Las Vegas)

Thomas B. Marten (Las Vegas)

Brett A. Meyer (Las Vegas)

Seth A. Schrenzel (Carson City)

Darrin H. Scheidle(Las Vegas)

Michael D. Chambers (Las Vegas)

Benjamin J. Ness (Las Vegas)

Peter C. Kranske (Las Vegas)

David Kahn, Esq. (Las Vegas)

Adam K. Wertsbaugh (Las Vegas)

Joseph K. Adamo (Las Vegas)

Dawn M. Calhoun (Carson City)

Brandon S. Hoagland (Carson City)

Victor L. Dunn (Las Vegas)

Heather L. Ebneter (Las Vegas)

Tara L. McClelland (Las Vegas)

Johnno W. Lazetich (Carson City)

John C. Pearce (Las Vegas)

Paul M. Hammond (Las Vegas)

Pamela J. Engle (Las Vegas)

Vincent Carton (Las Vegas)

Kelly E. Riddle (Las Vegas)

Brett A. Primas (Las Vegas)

Daniel E. Holley (Las Vegas)

Shayne Kjellsen (Las Vegas)

Kelly J. Copeland, Jr. (Las Vegas)

Michael L. Carmody (Las Vegas)

Dan E. Taylor (Las Vegas)

Richard Campbell, Esq. (Carson City)

Mahmoud "Mike" Hendi (Carson City)

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David Banks (Las Vegas)

Alfred J. Clark (Las Vegas)

Lamont DuBose (Las Vegas)

Charles Gardiner (Las Vegas)

Joseph R. Gennuso (Las Vegas)

Christopher Gentry (Las Vegas)

Scott Heitkamp (Las Vegas)

Will F. Hopkins (Las Vegas)

Douglas Jefferson (Las Vegas)

Anthony Johnson (Las Vegas)

Ora Johnson (Las Vegas)

Mark Mallory (Las Vegas)

Russel A. McGinnis (Las Vegas)

Jamar D. Morris (Las Vegas)

Paul J. Nader (Las Vegas)

Jose A. Ocasio (Las Vegas)

John H. Patrick (Las Vegas)

Jay Propes (Las Vegas)

Ramon Sanchez Vega (Las Vegas)

Tyler Schmitz (Las Vegas)

Zachary C. Thomas (Las Vegas)

Curtiss Tucker (Las Vegas)

Ernest Wallace (Las Vegas)

Alton Warner (Las Vegas)

Wesley Widerholt (Carson City)

Michael Spriggs (Las Vegas)



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I N D E X

ITEM PAGE

1. Roll Call of Board Members 19

2. Public Comment 19

3. Review current financial report 20

4. Review and approve transcripts from

March 7 Board meeting "for possible action" 20

5. All applicants and witnesses to be sworn in 21

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CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS - CORPORATE NAME CHANGE,

QUALIFYING AGENT TRANSFER

6. ADT Holdings, Inc., license number 1728 is

requesting a Corporate Name Change to The ADT

Security Corporation. Alan R. Reza will remain

the qualifying agent. Corporate Officers to be

approved are Daniel M. Bresingham, Pelham G.

Finney, and Timothy J. Whall. This is subject

to all statutory and regulatory requirements.

"for possible action" 21

CORPORATE OFFICER

7. LP Innovations, Inc., license number 1523 is

seeking Corporate Officer approval for Mark F.

Simson. This is subject to all statutory and

regulatory requirements. "for possible

action" 22

8. Sectran Security Incorporated, license number

1757B is seeking Corporation Officer approval

for Jon P. Donohoo. This is subject to all

statutory and regulatory requirements.


CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS - QUALIFYING AGENT, EXISTING

CORP

9. Steven C. Thompson is requesting a change in

licensing status. Mr. Thompson is requesting

that his individual license, license number

1310B be kept in abeyance so that he may become



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the qualifying agent for Morrison Security

Group, Inc., license number 1137. This is

subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements. "for possible action" 22

10. Reid A. Jones is requesting a change in

licensing status. Mr. Jones is requesting

that his individual license, license number

2268B be kept in abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent for Surveillance Security,

Inc., license number 2223B. This is subject to

all statutory and regulatory requirements.


11. Glenda Gray-Meyer is requesting a change in

licensing status. Ms. Gray-Meyer is requesting

to transfer her private patrolman qualifying

agent status from Boutchantharaj Corporation,

license number 2189 to BLPG, Inc., license

number 2034; in addition, Ms. Gray-Meyer is

requesting that her individual Private

Investigator license, 1983A be kept in abeyance

so that she can become the qualifying agent for

BLPG, Inc., license number 2034. This is



CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS - QUALIFYING AGENT, NEW CORP

12. Aluttiq Security & Technology, LLC is applying

for a new Private Patrolman license. If

approved, Ray H. Walker, license number 1853B

is requesting that his individual license be

kept in abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent. Members to be approved are

Joseph G. Barnes and Darell G. Brewer. This

is subject to all statutory and regulatory


13. Lowers Risk Group, LLC is applying for a new

Private Investigator license. If approved,

Phillip Smith, license number 1294A is

requesting that his individual license be kept

in abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

agent. Members to be approved are David D.

Lowers, Don M. Lowers and Matthew R. Lowers.

This is subject to all statutory and regulatory




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14. Specialized Attorney Services, Inc. is applying

for a new corporate Process Server license. If

approved, James M. Jackson is requesting to

transfer his qualifying agent status from

Jackson Services, LLC, license number 2403C to

Specialized Attorney Services, Inc. Corporate

Officers to be approved are Lawrence H.

Butterfield and Megan M. Conte. This is



15. BaronHR Security, Inc. is applying for a new

corporate Private Investigator and Private

Patrolman license. If approved, Daniel D.

Crate, license numbers 445 & 445A is requesting

that his individual licenses be kept in

abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

agent. Corporate Officer to be approved is

Michael M. Morris. This is subject to all



ITEMS CARRIED OVER FROM MARCH BOARD MEETING

16. Invictus International Holdings, LLC, dbas,

Invictus International and Invictus GS3,

license number 2282B is seeking Member approval

for Stephen F. Krueger. This is subject to all

statutory and regulatory requirements. 28


17. R & G Securities LLC, dba, R & G Securities is

applying for a new corporate Private Patrolman

license. Garnetta Brown is applying for an

individual license. If approved, she is

requesting that her individual license be

placed into abeyance so that she may become the

qualifying agent. This is subject to all



18. DTA K9 Services, LLC is applying for a new

corporate Canine Handler license. Dan E.

Taylor, Jr. is applying for an individual

license. If approved, he is requesting that

his individual license be placed into abeyance

so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Member to be approved is Kimberly A. Taylor.



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PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR

19. AccuSource, Inc. is applying for a new

corporate Private Investigator license. Lianne

Charton-Holder is applying for an individual

Private Investigator license. If approved, she

is requesting that her individual license be


qualifying agent. Corporate Officer to be

approved is Lisa M. Holder. This is subject to 36

all statutory and regulatory requirements. 113


20. Service Scouts, Inc. is applying for a new

corporate Private Investigator license.

James N. Smith, Jr. is applying for an

individual Private Investigator license. If

approved, he is requesting that his individual

license be placed into abeyance for that he may

become the qualifying agent. Corporate Officer

to be approved is Mealani M. Smith. This is



21. Asset Protection & Security Services, L.P. is

applying for a new corporate Private

Investigator license. Jennifer M. Jonas is

applying for an individual Private Investigator

License. If approved, she is requesting that

her individual license be placed into abeyance

so that she may become the qualifying agent.

Members to be approved are Charles S. Mandel

and Thelma G. Mandel. This is subject to all



22. The Staretz Group L.L.C. is applying for a

new corporate Private Investigator license.

David M. Staretz is applying for an individual

Private Investigator license. If approved, he


placed into abeyance so that he may become the






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23. 1st All File Recovery USA, Inc., dba, Digital

Forensics Corporation, is applying for a new

corporate Private Investigator license.

Dmitry Belkin is applying for an individual

Private Investigator license. If approved, he






24. The FYI Alliance L.L.C. is applying for a new

Private Investigator license. Pamela D.

Cureton is applying for an individual Private

Investigator license. If approved, she is

requesting that her individual license be





25. William J. Luttig, dba, Grey Area Investigations

is applying for an individual Private

Investigator license. This is subject to all



26. Dree A. Cellemme, dba, Revelations Private

Investigations is applying for an individual

Private Investigator license. This is subject



27. Nichole M. Harrison is applying for an

individual Private Investigator license. This



PRIVATE PATROLMAN

28. Nakuuruq Solutions, LLC is applying for a new

corporate Private Patrolman license. Thomas B.

Marten is applying for an individual Private

Patrolman license. If approved, he is

requesting that his individual license be placed

into abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent. Members to be approved are

Anne M. Donohue, Romina L. Fincher, John P.

Lanzillotta and Laura B. Mitchell. This is



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29. Ahtna Professional Services, Inc. is applying

for a new corporate Private Patrolman license.

Brett A. Meyer is applying for an individual

Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is



qualifying agent. Corporate Officers to be

approved are Michelle R. Anderson, Linda M.

Pete and Brenda A. Rebne. This is subject to



30. High Rock Security, Inc. is applying for a new

corporate Private Patrolman license. Seth A.

Schrenzel is applying for an individual license.

If approved, he is requesting that his

individual license be placed into abeyance so

that he may become the qualifying agent.

Corporate Officers to be approved are

Michael J. Black and Wally J. Bomgaars. This



31. Southwest Protection Services, LLC is applying

for a new corporate Private Patrolman license.

Darrin H. Scheidle is applying for an individual




qualifying agent. Member to be approved is

Bryan E. Durant. This is subject to all



32. Maximum Security and Investigations LLC, dba,

MSI is applying for a new corporate Private

Patrolman license. Michael D. Chambers is

applying for an individual Private Patrolman

license. If approved, he is requesting that

his individual license be placed into abeyance

so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Member to be approved is Michael D. Chambers.





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33. Principal Risk Management, LLC is applying for

a new corporate Private Patrolman license.

Benjamin J. Ness is applying for an individual







34. Landmark Event Staffing Services, Inc. is

applying for a new corporate Private Patrolman

license. Peter C. Kranske is applying for an

individual Private Patrolman license. If


license be placed into abeyance so that he may

become the qualifying agent. Corporate Officer

to be approved is Michael S. Harrison. This is



35. Adam K. Wertsbaugh is applying for an

individual Private Patrolman license. If



become the qualifying agent for American Guard

Services, Inc., license number 1364. This is


requirements "for possible action" 70

36. Joseph K. Adamo, dba, AOPS is applying for an

individual Private Patrolman license. This is


requirements "for possible action" 72

PROCESS SERVER

37. C & H Couriers L.L.C. is applying for a new

corporate Process Server license. Dawn M.

Calhoun is applying for an individual Process

Server license. If approved, she is requesting

that her individual license be placed into

abeyance so that she may become the qualifying

agent. Member to be approved is Brandon S.

Hoagland. This is subject to all statutory

and regulatory requirements.




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38. 705 Investigations, LLC is applying for a new

corporate Process Server license. Victor L.

Dunn is applying for an individual license. If



become the qualifying agent. This is subject



39. Heather L. Ebneter is applying for an individual

Process Server license. If approved, she is

requesting that her individual license be placed

into abeyance so that she may become the

qualifying agent for Nevada Legal Support

Services, LLC, license number 1711. This is



40. Tara L. McClelland is applying for an individual

Process Server license. This is subject to all



41. Johnno W. Lazetich is applying for an individual

Process Server license. This is subject to all



CANINE HANDLER

42. VWK9, LLC is applying for a new corporate Canine

Handler license. John C. Pearce is applying for

an individual Canine Handler license. If



become the qualifying agent. Member to be

approved is Paul M. Hammond. This is subject to



PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND PRIVATE PATROLMAN

43. International Security Network, Inc., dba, ISN

is applying for a new corporate Private

Investigator and Private Patrolman license.

Pamela J. Engle is applying for an individual

Private Investigator and Private Patrolman

license. If approved, she is requesting that

her individual licenses be placed into abeyance



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so that she may become the qualifying agent.

Corporate Officers to be approved are Joan E.

Leitner and Jerome F.R. Soine. This is subject



44. Kelmar Global is applying for a new corporate


license. Kelly E. Riddle is applying for an

individual Private Investigator and Private

Patrolman license. If approved, he is

requesting that his individual licenses be


qualifying agent. Corporate Officer to be

approved is Kelly E. Riddle. This is subject



45. PSYOPS Consulting, LLC is applying for a new

corporate Private Investigator and Private

Patrolman license. Brett A. Primas is applying

for an individual Private Investigator and


requesting that his individual licenses be


qualifying agent. Member to be approved is

Brett A. Primas. This is subject to all



46. Daniel E. Holley is applying for an individual


license. If approved, he is requesting to

place his individual licenses in abeyance so

that he may become the qualifying agent for

Capitol Guard & Patrol, Inc., license number

1249. Corporate Officer to be approved is

Michael J. Johnson. This is subject to all



PRIVATE PATROLMAN AND CANINE HANDLER

47. K2 Solutions, Inc. is applying for a new

corporate Private Patrolman and Canine Handler

license. Kelly J. Copeland, Jr. is applying for

an individual Private Patrolman and Canine

Handler license. If approved, he is requesting

that his individual licenses be placed into



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abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

agent. Corporate Officers to be approved are

Lane Kjellsen, James A. Lynch, Nancy Mills-Smith

and Susan M. Kjellsen. This is subject to all



PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR, PRIVATE PATROLMAN AND PROCESS

SERVER

48. Michael L. Carmody is applying for an individual

Private Investigator, Private Patrolman and

Process Server. This is subject to all



OTHER BUSINESS

49. Dan E. Taylor, Jr., Qualifying Agent for DIA

Security Services, LLC, license number 1067,

is asking the Board to grant an exemption as

outlined in NAC 648.338. Mr. Taylor is

requesting that the Board allow them to utilize

(6) "active" Out of State Peace Officers to

work in elevated security positions at the

January 2019 Consumer Electronics Show (CES).

All 6 officers have registered work cards that

are only activated for this event each year.



50. ESI Security Services, Inc., license number 700,

Mahmoud "Mike" Hendi is petitioning the Board

for an Advisory Opinion pursuant to NAC 648.430

related to the requirements for registration

under NRS 648.060 for employees of ESI and or

Events Services. "for possible action" 103

51. Pursuant to NRS 648.020(3), the members of the

Board shall elect a Chair of the Board from

among its members by majority vote. After the

initial election, the Chair shall hold office

for a term of 2 years beginning on July 1 of

each year. Board Members may nominate

candidates to assume the role of Chairman to be

followed by a vote. The newly elected Chairman

will assume the duties July 1, 2018 through

June 30, 2020. "for possible action" 114



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REGISTRATION APPEALS

52. Tomas Baltazar applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Baltazar is appealing the

decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 120


53. David Banks applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Banks is appealing the decision

to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


54. Alfred J. Clark applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Clark is appealing the

decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


55. Taham J. Cristilli applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Cristilli is appealing

the decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 127


56. Lamont DuBose applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. DuBose is appealing the decision



57. Dexter Dukes applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Dukes is appealing the decision

to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 133


58. Charles Gardiner applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Gardiner is appealing the



59. Joseph R. Gennuso applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Gennuso is appealing the



60. Christopher Gentry applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Gentry is appealing the





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61. Scott Heitkamp applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Heitkamp is appealing the



62. Will F. Hopkins applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Hopkins is appealing the



63. Douglas Jefferson applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Jefferson is appealing the



64. Anthony Johnson applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Johnson is appealing the



65. Ora Johnson applied for registration and was

denied. Ms. Johnson is appealing the decision



66. Mark Mallory applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Mallory is appealing the decision



67. Russel A. McGinnis applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. McGinnis is appealing the



68. Jamar D. Morris applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Morris is appealing the



69. Paul J. Nader applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Nader is appealing the decision



70. Jose A. Ocasio applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Ocasio is appealing the





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71. John H. Patrick applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Patrick is appealing the



72. Jay Propes applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Propes is appealing the decision



73. Ramon Sanchez Vega applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Sanchez Vega is appealing

the decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


74. Tyler Schmitz applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Schmitz is appealing the decision



75. Desean P. Smith applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Smith is appealing the



76. William Tennant applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Tennant is appealing the



77. Zachary C. Thomas applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Thomas is appealing the



78. Curtiss E. Tucker applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Tucker is appealing the



79. Ernest Wallace applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Wallace is appealing the decision



80. Alton Warner applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Warner is appealing the decision





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81. Wesley Widerholt applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Widerholt is appealing the



82. Aric Young applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Young is appealing the decision

to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 222


83. Board Comment and future agenda items.


84. Public comment 225

85. Adjournment "for possible action" 226



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CARSON CITY, NEVADA, THURSDAY, JUNE 14, 2018, 9:02 A.M.

-oOo-

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. We're

going to call the meeting -- what is this? -- the second

quarterly meeting of the Private Investigators Licensing

Board to order. Today is June 14, 2018.

Can we have roll call, please?

MR. INGRAM: Yes, sir.

Board Member Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Here.

MR. INGRAM: Board Member Nadeau?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Here.

MR. INGRAM: Chairman Zane?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Here.

MR. INGRAM: And, for the record, Board Member

Flynn and Board Member Nixon will not be present today.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Item number 2 is

public comment.

We have a public comment portion to the agenda

at the first and at the last of the meeting. Public

comment is generally any topic that you think the Board

needs to be aware of or you think would be of interest

to the industry. Whatever you think that we should have

information about, that's not on the agenda, we're

willing to take public comment now and, again, like I



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said, at the end of the meeting.

Is there any public comment in the south, here

in Las Vegas?

Seeing none, is there any public comment in the

north?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 3 is a review

of the current financial report.

MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

The financial report has been provided to all

the Board members. We are on track to close our budget

probably by the end of July. A new budget is being

established, be in place before then.

And if anybody has any questions, I'd be happy

to answer them.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any public comment

regarding the financials?

Any Board comment regarding financials?

Okay. Item number 4, review and approve

transcript from the March 7, 2018 Board meeting.

Is there any public comment regarding the

minutes?

Any Board comment regarding the minutes?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Move to approve the



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minutes.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Second.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We have a motion and a

second to approve the minutes of the March 7, 2018 Board

meeting. Any Board comment or question on the motion?

All in favor, say "aye."

(Board members said "aye.")

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any opposed, say "no."

Carries unanimous.

Item number 5, all applicants and witnesses to

be sworn.

If you're here today to give testimony on any

issue, we require that that testimony be sworn and

subject to the penalty of perjury. So if you intend to

speak here, other than at the end of the meeting in

public comment, now would be a good time to en mass

stand, raise your right hand, be sworn in.

Counsel, please.

MS. BORDELOVE: Do you swear that the testimony

here today will be the truth, the whole truth, and

nothing but the truth?

(All applicants and witnesses present were

sworn.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you very much.

Item number 6, ADI Holdings, Inc., license



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number 1728, is requesting a corporate name change.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chairman?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: If you'll accept a motion

for a block vote, I would submit.


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chairman --

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there a second? Oh,

I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I second.

Mr. Chairman, I would submit for a block vote

the following items: item 6, item 7, item 8, item 9,

item 10, item 11, item 12, item 13, item 14.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Mr. Colbert, do you

second for those particular items?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, sir, I second that.


All right. Ladies and gentlemen, what is being

proposed is that we handle those agenda items as one

vote in a block. So if you're here and you think that

you need to be heard with regard to agenda items number

6 through 14, you would need to notice us up right now,

so that we could pull any one of those particular agenda

items from the block vote consideration. So if you have

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time to let the Board know.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Seeing no notice in the

south, anybody in the north?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Nobody, no one in the

north, Mr. Chair. Would you like me to elaborate on

what these items include, for the record?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: If you feel, yeah, if

you'd like.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Item number 6 is under

Change of Licensing Status, ADT Holdings, Incorporated.

Under Corporate Officer, number 7 is LP Innovations,

Incorporated. Number 8, also under Corporate Officer,

is Sectran Security Incorporated. Under Change of

Licensing Status - Qualifying Agent, Existing

Corporation, number 9, Steven C. Thompson; number 10,

Reid A. Jones; number 11, Glenda Gray-Meyer. Under

Changes of Licensing Status - Qualifying Agent, New

Corp, number 12, Aluttiq & Technology, LLC; Lowers Risk,

or number 13 is Lowers Risk Group, LLC; number 14 is

Specialized Attorney Services, Incorporated.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you, Mr. Nadeau.

Okay. Is there any public comment?

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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. We have a motion

to handle all in block fashion. Does that motion

include the approvals, Mr. Nadeau?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. So we've got

a motion to approve 6 through 14. All in favor, say

"aye."



Carries unanimous. So if you're here for 6

through 14, and you're all done, we appreciate you

sticking around and participating in your state

government, but we know you won't, so thank you for

coming.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair?


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I would move approval on

item number 15. It's BaronHR Security, Incorporated.

I'd move for approval. I just had a disclosure that I

wanted to make in conjunction with this one.

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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: On number 15?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Yeah.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I'd like to -- no. I

want to find out a little bit about Mr. Morris and his

liens.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Okay. I'll withdraw my

motion.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. All right. Next

item on the agenda is number 15, BaronHR Security, Inc.

Is there somebody here for Baron?

Good morning.

MR. MORRIS: Good morning, Chairman, Board

members.

MR. CRATE: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you introduce

yourselves for the record?

MR. CRATE: My name's Dan Crate. I'm the

current license holder, number 445. And Mr. Michael

Morris is the president and proposed corporate officer

for BaronHR Security.


MR. MORRIS: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning.

Okay. Mr. Colbert.

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you kind of give us a little status on your tax liens

and what was going on there?

MR. MORRIS: Yeah, most of those have been

finalized. And, also, there's arrangements, too, for

those final payments to be made. Those are deducted

from my weekly payroll check.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. And the

investigator working on this?

MR. MAXWELL: Investigator Maxwell.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Did you receive any

documentation of his compliance with these?

MR. MAXWELL: We did make contact with the

gentleman, and he has been notified and made the

payments on his things, sir.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: So all of these have

been pretty much put to rest?

MR. MAXWELL: As far as I'm aware, sir, yes.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. All right. I

have no further, then.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I, too, would have, I

would have had some questions with regard to the

financial background had I not been familiar with your

qualifying agent, who would not tolerate any

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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I move to

approve that BaronHR Security, Incorporated be granted a

new corporate private investigator and private patrol

license, Daniel D. Crate, license number 445 and 445A,

be granted his individual licenses be kept in abeyance

so that he may become the qualifying agent. Corporate

officer to be approved is Michael M. Morris. Subject to



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: And, Mr. Chair?


second.

Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: As a disclosure,

Mr. Crate and I served on this Board for a number of

years together and, but we have no interest outside that

Board relationship. Thank you.


I, too, I didn't serve on the Board with

Mr. Crate, but I filled his vacancy and attempted to do

as good a job on this Board as he did, that I watched

him do. So. But I don't have any conflict of interest.

Any public comment, question regarding the

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motion?




Carries unanimous. Thank you.

MR. MORRIS: Thank you.

MR. CRATE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes?

MR. INGRAM: The microphone that's closest to

the stenographer.


MR. INGRAM: The little flat microphone, can

you slide that down towards you a little bit? We're

getting a lot of feedback.

Thank you, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Item number 16,

Invictus International Holdings.

Come on forward, please. Good morning.

MR. KRUEGER: Mr. Chairman, Board members.


yourself, please?

MR. KRUEGER: My name's Stephen Krueger, and I

work with Invictus International, LLC.

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carried this over. There was some questions, I believe,

as I recall, with regard to some corporate holdings

about the Secretary of State. Have you been in contact

with the staff about any of the questions that were

raised at the previous Board meeting?

MR. KRUEGER: Not myself personally, no, sir.

Matt Keotting is our qualified agent, and Michael

Dichiaro, which, unfortunately, they were delayed, and

they're on the way here now. So I haven't been

contacted about those questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Would you like to

push this until the other parties arrive?

MR. KRUEGER: Yes, sir. They're on their way

right now, if we can.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. No problem. Just

get ahold of us at a break.

MR. KRUEGER: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And let us know

everybody's here.

MR. KRUEGER: Okay. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, I'm sorry.

Board members, is that okay?


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: It's okay with me. Thank

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Number 17, R & G Securities LLC.

Hi.

MS. BROWN: Good morning.


yourself, please?

MS. BROWN: Hi. My name's Garnetta Brown.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. This item was also

on a previous Board agenda. I don't recollect why we

needed you to appear, but.

MR. INGRAM: She was not present at the last

Board meeting.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, okay. I would have

known that, but I'm having a little difficulty with my

old computer actually coming alive here.

So you were -- you have applied for a private

patrolman. Can you tell us a little bit about your

background and yourself and what you hope to do?

MS. BROWN: I'm a retired armed guard, North

Las Vegas. At this point, I'm trying to establish my

license for different entities, apartment complexes, the

Raiders stadium, providing transportation as well as

security.

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MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Do you have any input?

MS. DONALD: No, everything was fine, no

issues.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So the only reason that

we set this over was because she didn't appear?

MR. INGRAM: Correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Is there any

public comment with regard to agenda item number 17?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: None up north.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Any Board

comment regarding agenda item number 17?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Entertain a motion. Yes,

sir.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I think, part

of the reason, because this was a new corporation and a

new applicant is part of the reason that it was held

over.

I would move to approve R & G Securities LLC,

doing business as R & G Securities, be granted a new

corporate private patrol license, Garnetta Brown be

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second. Any Board conversation or question regarding

the motion?





MS. BROWN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Just as a matter of

disclosure, we were running through these agenda items,

we have particular information from the staff and the

investigators that we've already been provided, that is

part of the background investigation. So on occasion

you'll wonder why somebody needed to make an appearance

here and sit here for about two minutes and then be done

with. Well, the biggest reason for that is so that

someone else that we might not have any information

about might have information about this person or this

company.

So if you all are sitting here, we've already

done our investigation, and we're not aware of something

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things. And so if it doesn't pop up in a background

investigation, and somebody shows up and says, "I know

this person to be not good for this industry," on

occasion it's good to have somebody pop up and say, "And

I can prove it."

So that's why you see this. And it's kind of

important for people to show up, especially in the

initial licensing phase, so that they may be heard.

Sometimes you don't even know that you're dealing with

the same person until you see that person, because

you've seen them in another particular setting in some

sort of vetting process, but you didn't know them.

So as part of the transparency of what goes on

here, it's like, you know, I mean we hate to think that

we missed something in an investigation, but there are

parameters to all investigations, as everybody's aware.

So if we miss it outside that parameter, it's pretty

helpful to say, "I know the guy to be a mass murderer,

but he just got away with it forever."

So that's why we're doing what we do, and

that's the reason that we do what we do. But,

ultimately, it's not fair to make somebody sit here and

plead their right to have a license with the Board. So

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conducted and we need answers, because we haven't gotten

them.

So just as a matter of clarity, that's why we

run through this stuff the way it's done.

Any questions?

Next item on the agenda is DTA K9 Services,

LLC. Somebody from DTA?

MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Introduce yourself,

please.

MR. TAYLOR: Yes, Dan Taylor with DTA K9.


MR. TAYLOR: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you tell us a little

bit about yourself and what you hope to do?

MR. TAYLOR: So I am a current license holder

with DTA Security Services. And we're looking to expand

our services to our clients to now include canine

services. So we've applied for the canine license.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Investigator

Donald, this is yours?

MS. DONALD: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And we've jumped

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MS. DONALD: He did. Did wonderful with the

test.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Is there any

public comment or questions regarding agenda item number

18?

Any Board questions or comments regarding

number 18?



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I believe that Mr. Taylor

wasn't able to appear at the last meeting, and that's

why this was carried over.

With that said, I'd move --

MR. TAYLOR: That is correct.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, that said, I'd

move to approve DTA K9 Services, LLC be granted a new

corporate canine handler license, D.E. Taylor, Jr. be

granted an individual license and that license be placed

in abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Member to be approved is Kimberly A. Taylor. Subject to




and a second. Is there any Board comment or question on

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It carries unanimous. Thank you.

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: On to the category of

Private Investigator, number 19, AccuSource, Inc.?

Is there someone from AccuSource, Inc.? Lianne

Charton-Holder?

All right. How about we trail number 19.

Item number 20, Service Scouts, Inc.?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: It's up north.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there somebody up

north for Service Scouts?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Good morning.

MR. SMITH: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm James

Smith, representing Service Scouts, Incorporated.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. Can you tell

us a little bit about the company and your background

and what you hope to do?

MR. SMITH: Yeah, certainly. I'm a former

grocery executive. I founded Service Scouts in 1996.

We've been performing secret shopping nationally except

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can do secret shopping in the state of Nevada where I

live.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay.

MR. SMITH: The Oakland Raiders are a client,

and they're moving to Las Vegas, so they'd like me to

help them out.


public comment with regard to item number 20, Service

Scouts, Inc.?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: None north.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any Board comment

regarding number 20?



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

So, basically, up until this time, any work

that you have done in Nevada you've done through

Spencer?

MR. SMITH: Yes.



But I would -- it appears that you've done

something right, because especially in the mystery

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MR. SMITH: It's been kind of nice, though,

I've been able to not work at home. So I've been

traveling. Yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yeah. Well, if I lived

in Incline Village, I don't know if I'd want to travel.

MR. SMITH: Yeah. Thank you. It's a nice

place.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yes.

MR. SMITH: Appreciate the opportunity to be

here.


Any further Board conversation?

Entertain a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I'd move that

Service Scouts, Inc. be approved a new corporate private

investigator's license and that James N. Smith, Jr.,

that be given his private investigator's license and

that it be placed into abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent. Corporate officers to be approved

are Mealani M. Smith. This is subject to all statutory


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Second.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: There's a motion and a

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Carries unanimous. Congratulations.

MR. SMITH: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 21, Asset

Protection & Security Services? 21, Asset Protection &

Security Services, Jennifer Jonas?

MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chairman?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yes?

MR. SALADINO: They've been asked to postpone

it till September.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, okay.

I'd move that we postpone item number 21 at the

applicant's request until the September Board meeting.

Is there a second?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I'll second.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any Board questions or

comments on the motion?




Carries unanimously.

Item number 22, The Staretz Group L.L.C.

MR. STARETZ: Yes.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. Good morning.

MR. STARETZ: Good morning.


yourself and give us at a little bit of background?

MR. STARETZ: Yes. I'm David Staretz. I'm a

retired law enforcement officer after 25 years. I'm

eager to start my own private investigative firm. And I

hope my actions make this Board proud.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. This was

Investigator Donald. I still don't have my computer up

and running, so. We're completed?

MS. DONALD: Yes, we are.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And no red flags?

MS. DONALD: None at all.


public comment regarding the agenda item number 22?

Any Board comment regarding item number 22?

Entertain a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I move that

The Staretz Group L.L.C. be approved a new corporate

private investigator's license and that David M. Staretz

be approved his individual private license and that it

be placed into -- that his individual license be placed

into abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

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second. Any Board comment or question regarding the

motion?





MR. STARETZ: Thank you very much.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good luck.

Item number 23, 1st All File Recovery USA, Inc.

Good morning.

MR. BELKIN: Good morning. How are you?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good. Can you introduce

yourself and give us a little bit of background?

MR. BELKIN: Sure. Dmitry Belkin. I'm

president and CEO of DigitalForensics.com and 1st All

File Recovery. I've been involved in digital forensics

for probably six to 10 years in some fashion. I'm here

to request licensing to be able to provided digital

forensic services in the state of Nevada.


public comment regarding the item number 23?

MR. BELKIN: My wife's a current license holder



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: No public comment?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Board

comment, item number 23?

As I recall, going through your file, you did

have a citation for unlicensed activity that you

satisfied, correct?

MR. BELKIN: We did. We paid the fine. You

know, digital forensics is such a gray area in a lot of

states. Our pay-per-click ads were set up to target the

entire United States. And so, you know, unknowingly, we

were, obviously, offering our services in Nevada. We

were fined. We paid. And promptly after that, I

decided to make a decision to come here and get

licensing to make sure I'm in compliance.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And from the staff

perspective, there isn't any other indication of a

violation other than that rendition?

MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino. No, no

other red flags or anything. I spoke with Ohio as well,

and they were very forthcoming with information in

regards to his license and stuff, so.

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Entertain a motion.


1st All File Recovery USA, Incorporated, doing business

as Digital Forensics Corporation, be approved a new

corporate private investigator's license and that Dmitry

Belkin be granted an individual private investigator's

license, and that his individual license be placed into

abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.


requirements.



second. Is there any Board comment or question on the

motion?





MR. BELKIN: Thank you, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you for being

legal.

MR. BELKIN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Number 24, The FYI

Alliance L.L.C.

MS. CURETON: Good morning.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. Could you

introduce yourself and give us a little bit of

background.

MS. CURETON: Yes. I'm Pam -- excuse me,

Pam Cureton, managing member of The FYI Alliance L.L.C.

I have more than 30 years of experience in law

enforcement and investigation in another state, and I'd

like to continue that similar work here in Nevada. So I

wanted to be credentialed.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there any public

comment regarding item number 24?

Any Board comment or question for the

applicant?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: None.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Entertain a motion.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I'd move that

The FYI Alliance L.L.C. be granted a new private

investigator license, Pamela D. Cureton be granted an

individual private investigator license and that that

license be placed in abeyance so that she may become the

qualifying agent. This is subject to all statutory and

regulatory requirements.



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regarding the motion?




It carries unanimous. Congratulations.

MS. CURETON: Thank you very much.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you for coming.

Item number 25, William Luttig, doing business

as Gray Area Investigations.

MR. LUTTIG: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. How are

you doing?

MR. LUTTIG: Hey, pretty good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good. Can you give us a

little bit of background and tell us what you're hoping

to do?

MR. LUTTIG: I moved here in like 2001. And I

have been going through some executive protection

schools and stuff. But I switched to private

investigations about nine, nine years, 10 years ago,

with Jim Perry. And he kind of, I guess, semi-retired

maybe. He's just not doing a whole lot. And he

suggested, hey, you might as well just get your -- try

and get your own license, you know, and he'll help me

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do this.


public comment regarding item number 25?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Any Board comment

regarding item number 25?





William J. Luttig, dba Gray Area Investigations, be

approved an individual private investigator's license.


requirements.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We have a motion. Is

there a second?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any Board comment or

question on the motion?




It carries unanimous. Congratulations.

MR. LUTTIG: Thank you. Thanks for your time.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 26, Dree



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Cellemme ("Sel-man"), "Sel-mee"?

MS. CELLEMME: "Sel-eh-mee."

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: "Sel-eh-mee." Sorry

about that. This is Revelations Private Investigations.

Are you "Dree" or "Dray"?

MS. CELLEMME: "Dray."

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: "Dray." I'm sorry.

Okay. Can you give us a little bit of background and

tell us what you're hoping to do?

MS. CELLEMME: I'm a former special agent with

the FBI. I've been a licensed private investigator in

California since 2011. I specialize in indigent

criminal defense and spent five years with the federal

public defender down in San Diego. And now I'm coming

back to Las Vegas.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Well, if you've

been in California, it's nice to come back to Vegas.

MS. CELLEMME: Much bigger house for a lot less

money.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any motion on item number

26?


Dree A. Cellemme, dba Revelations Private

Investigations, be approved an individual private

investigator's license. And this is subject to all





motion?





MS. CELLEMME: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Nichole Harrison, item

number 27?

Good morning. You're Nichole?

MS. HARRISON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Can you give

us a little bit of background and tell us what you're

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Harrison. I've been doing investigations for big

corporations, as recently as my prior employer, with

MGM. I did security and theft. I'm currently employed

with Barclays as a vice president, doing investigations

there. I have a certified card examiner's and a

certified internal auditor's certification. And I'm

looking, I'm very eager to start my own business.








BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any motion?


that Nichole M. Harrison be approved an individual

private investigator's license. This is subject to all




second. Any comments or questions with regard to the

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Any opposed, say "no."


MS. HARRISON: Thank you. I just have one

question. Who's Gisela?

MS. CORRAL: Here.

MS. HARRISON: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Now, do we need a

break, anybody need a break?

Yes, sir.

MR. SALADINO: Excuse me, Mr. Chair. In

regards to item 16, all members of Invictus

International have arrived.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. The pleasure of

the Board to go back with respect to item number 16?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Sure.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Sure.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Now, we -- previously,

you were here.

MR. KRUEGER: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I'll need to get you

sworn, both of you sworn in, so that your testimony can

be taken under oath.

MR. KOETTING: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: The counsel will, if

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MS. BORDELOVE: Raise your right hand, please.

Do you swear that the testimony you give today will be

the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

MR. DICHIARO: Yes.

MR. KOETTING: I do.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. Can you

introduce yourselves respectively?

MR. KOETTING: Good morning, Mr. Chair. I'm

Matt Koetting. I'm the qualified agent for Invictus

International here this morning to appoint Steve Krueger

as a managing member as well. Mr. Dichiaro is MBI Asset

Management LP. He's one of the managing members of

that, which is also an invested owner of our company.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. All right. And

let's see. Who is the investigator on this license?

MR. KOETTING: The fire patrol operator.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: No, the investigator

instead.

MR. KOETTING: I'm sorry.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. I believe that

there was an issue about corporate holdings and how the

structure of the company was put together.

MR. KOETTING: Yes, sir.

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disclosure with regarding -- there was proper disclosure

regarding MBI. But then there was a question about

R and D, or RD Inc.

MR. DICHIARO: I believe, that's how it is. So

MBI is an asset. It's RD and MBI. It's all part of an

asset protection plan, which is put in place here in

Nevada to protect my assets. I am from New York. I was

in business for over 32 years there. I moved here in

2010. And, you know, we, basically, personally finance,

you know, various businesses. This one, I'm actually

not only financing them, I'm actively going to be

working with.

So MBI is, that's what it is, it's part of an

asset protection. The guy who's listed as the agent,

his name is Tom Hughes, he's the managing agent.

Because it wouldn't be much of an asset protection plan

if my name was listed all over the place.

So that's the whole thing.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, the reason it

caused a problem is because there is this licensing

process.

MR. DICHIARO: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We can't, within the

regulatory scheme, we -- it's our duty to make sure that

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licensure --

MR. DICHIARO: Right.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- or qualified for

licensure be considered. And when an entire corporate

entity is listed somewhere in the birthright of the

entity who's attempting to get licensed, it causes a

particular question about how deep do we need to go to

find out whether or not Frank Sinatra owns it.

MR. DICHIARO: Okay. Well.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So we're here to

determine --

MR. DICHIARO: Yeah, yeah, maybe I could work

with the investigator. I hear you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I mean I understand the

asset protection. We've had billionaires here to get

licensed, and because they couldn't turn over their

financials to us, they elected to fly away somewhere

else. So it's --

MR. DICHIARO: Right. We're not adverse to

doing that. I'm also not adverse to telling that I, you

know, technically, am the owner. And, obviously, you

know, if I have to sign something saying that. And I'm

the only one that's going to be part of this company.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Based upon these

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about the structure of the company to conclude that we

know who the players are?

MR. MAXWELL: I would say so, sir, yeah.






BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I'm sorry. Either one of

you folks have anything else to add?

MR. KOETTING: No, Chair. If you need anything

else for additional notice, transparency, I'm happy to

do so. We've been working kind of hand-in-hand. Gisela

helped us a lot out with the license. But because of

the process of our growth, we're looking to launch

California and pass the launch in California right now

and acquiring another company, which has been moving

quite quickly with it. We also, unfortunately, lost our

accounting services early this year. As many of you may

know, Camden Security, they dumped us because a memo was

revealed.

So it slows downs a little bit, so that the

professional things have been handled for us. But

anything else we can do, we're happy to do so.

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public comment. There was none. Board comment?





Invictus International Holdings, LLC, doing business as

Invictus International and Invictus GS3, license number

2282B, be approved and that Stephen F. Krueger be

granted his license, and that this is subject to all


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I'll second that.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chairman, for clarification on

the motion, Mr. Krueger is not seeking licensure. He's

only seeking member approval for the currently licensed

Invictus. So we would need to rephrase that motion a

little bit.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I'll rephrase that to

that Invictus International Holdings, LLC, doing

business as Invictus International and Invictus GS3,

license number 2282B, boy, be granted member approval

for Stephen F. Krueger. This is subject to all


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and a second. Board comment or discussion regarding the

motion?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All in favor, say "aye."



Carries unanimous. Thank you for coming.

MR. DICHIARO: Thank you.

MR. KOETTING: Thank you.

MR. KRUEGER: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Now we're moving

back. Again, does anybody need a break?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No. Let's go ahead and

move on.



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Category of

Private Patrolman, item number 28, Nakuuruq Solutions?

How did I do with that?

MR. MARTEN: Good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good. Okay. Can you

introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about what

you'd like to do and your background?

MR. MARTEN: You bet, yeah. I'm a retired

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supervision and management. I have 10 years in the

private investigations and private security industry,

with six of that in management. My current company,

Nakuuruq Solutions, is currently seeking federal

contract opportunities here in the state of Nevada.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Thank you. Is

there any public comment regarding item number 28?






Nakuuruq Solutions, LLC be granted a new corporate

private patrol license, Thomas B. Marten be granted an

individual private patrol license and that that license

be placed in abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent. Members to be approved are Anne M.

Donohue, Romina L. Fincher, John Lanzillo -- I guess,

it's Lanzillotta. Is that close? Okay.

MR. MARTEN: Close. Close, yes.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: And Laura B. Mitchell.

Subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.



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Passes unanimous. Congratulations.

MR. MARTEN: Thank you very much.


Number 29, Ahtna Professional Services, Inc.?

Did I say that right?

MR. MEYER: Yes, you did.


MR. MEYER: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. Can you

introduce yourself and give us a little bit of

background?

MR. MEYER: Yes, sir. I'm Brett Meyer. I'm

the security program manager with Ahtna Professional

Services. We provide armed and cleared work for the

federal government. And that's our interest in working

in Nevada.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Item number 29, is

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Ahtna Professional Services, Incorporated be granted a

new private patrol license, Brett A. Meyer be granted an

individual private patrol license, that that license be

placed into abeyance, his individual license be placed

into abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

agent. Corporate officers to be approved are

Michelle L. -- excuse me -- Michelle R. Anderson,

Linda M. Pete and Brenda A. Rebne. This is subject to





motion?






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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: High Rock Security, Inc.,

item number three zero, 30?


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: He's up here.

MR. SCHRENZEL: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. Can you

give a little -- or introduce yourself and give us

little background?

MR. SCHRENZEL: Sure. My same is Seth

Schrenzel, qualified manager for High Rock Security for

about the last 10 years. We primarily are a special

events security company, and we are looking to start

operations in Nevada.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Thank you.

Is there any anybody, public comment with

regard to item number 30?






High Rock Security, Inc. be approved a new corporate

private patrolman license and that Seth A. --

"Shren-zayl"?

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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: -- "Shren-zel" be

approved for an individual license and that his

individual license be placed into abeyance so that he

may become the qualifying agent. Corporate officers to

be approved are Michael J. Black and Wally J. Bomgaars.


requirements.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We have a motion. Do we

have a second?



or question on the motion?




Congratulations.

MR. SCHRENZEL: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Passes unanimous.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Did you drive all the way

up from Gerlach?

MR. SCHRENZEL: Yes. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Have a nice drive home.

MR. SCHRENZEL: Thank you very much.


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Good morning.

MR. SCHEIDLE: Good morning.


yourself and give us a little background?

MR. SCHEIDLE: My name's Darrin Scheidle. I'm

applying to be the qualifying manager. I've been in the

private security industry since 1984 in California,

started up two security companies there. My first one,

in '91, I had a qualifying manager while I got my

experience. It's in management. In '94, I became the

qualifying manager of a new venture and was licensed

there until 2004.

Since I've been in Nevada, I was approached by

a gentleman by the name of Bryan Durant, who has worked

with me as a volunteer with the Civil Air Patrol and has

asked me to lend my management and experience to this

venture. So that's what I'm applying for.


public comment with regard to item number 31?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any Board comment with

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Southwest Protection Services, LLC be granted a new

corporate private patrol license, Darrin H. Scheidle be

granted an individual private patrol license and that

that license be placed in abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent. Member to be approved is Bryan E.

Durant. This is subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements.



and a second. Any Board comment or question on the

motion?






MR. SCHEIDLE: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 32, Maximum

Security and Investigations LLC?

Good morning.

MR. CHAMBERS: Good morning, sir.



MR. CHAMBERS: Yes, sir. My name is Michael D.



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Chambers. D stands for Demetrius.

I am inspired to start this security company to

better help educate and protect the communities that I

grew up in. I'm a Nevada -- I'm a Nevada, Las Vegas

native. So I know a lot about all of the communities

that have kind of been looked over and lacking in these,

in these areas that I've stated. So I'm inspired to

start this security company to just, to do just that.

I have over 10 years of experience in security.

My family has a lot of background in law enforcement as

well as military. So I'm just real eager to do my part

here in the city.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. I'm inspired to

have heard that.

All right. Anybody have public comment



BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I have one, sir.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: In regards to your lien

with the State of Nevada, can you give us a little

information on that, please?

MR. CHAMBERS: Yes, sir. I believe, it was the

summer of two thousand and -- I want to say nine. I

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Upward Bound. It was a summer program where high school

students can come in and get the college experience over

the summer. When I accepted that, that position in

that, in that summer program, I was told that I would be

stipended, if you will, an income, not necessarily a

paycheck. So I was, I was somewhat ignorant in that

area to continue my unemployment payments at that time.

But beknownst to that, I continued my payments.

And then after, after that summer, I received the

letters and things to pay it off. And I did my best to

do that. I wasn't as successful as I should have been.

But I worked, working with my background investigator

and things of that sort, I was able to get those things

situated and worked out.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Investigator Swarthout,

this is all the paperwork satisfied on his issue with

the State?

MR. SWARTHOUT: Investigator Swarthout. Yes.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. Thank you. I

have no further.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board comment,

question?

Entertain a motion.


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as MSI, be approved a new corporate private patrolman

license, that Michael D. Chambers be approved for his

individual license, individual private patrolman

license, and that this license be placed into abeyance

so that he may become the qualifying agent. Members to

be approved are Michael D. -- member to be approved is

Michael D. Chambers. This is subject to all statutory


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We have a motion. Do I

have a second?







Carries unanimous. Congratulations. Good

luck.

MR. CHAMBERS: Thank you, sirs.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Appreciate it.

MR. CHAMBERS: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 33, Principal

Risk Management.

Good morning.

MR. NESS: Good morning.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How are you doing?

MR. NESS: I'm doing well, thank you.



MR. NESS: Sure. My name's Benjamin Ness. I'm

currently the CSO for a corporation here in town. And

I've been approached by a number of organizations, and I

met with individuals, to provide consulting services for

them in various security matters. So here I am applying

for -- to get a license.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Any public comment

with regard to item number 33?






Principal Risk Management, LLC be approved a new

corporate private patrolman license and that Benjamin J.

Ness be approved for his individual private patrolman

license and that this license be placed into abeyance so

that he may become the qualifying agent. This is

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and a second. Any Board comment or question regarding

the motion?




Carries unanimous. Congratulations. Good

luck.

MR. NESS: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Landmark Event Staffing

Services?

Good morning.

MR. KRANSKE: Good morning.

MR. KAHN: Good morning.


yourselves respectively and give us a little bit of

background?

MR. KRANSKE: Right. My name is Peter Kranske,

and I'm the president and chief operating officer of

Landmark Event Staffing Services. I've been in the

business for 50 years. I've worked with the L.A.

Raiders in my previous company. And my present company

works for the Oakland Raiders at the Oakland Coliseum

and at their training facility as well as other events

that they provide.

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MR. KAHN: My name is David Kahn. I'm a local

attorney here with the national law firm of Wilson

Elser. I happen to serve as outside counsel for

Landmark, including for matters, legal matters outside

of the state.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you, Mr. Kahn.

Okay. Is there any public comment with regard

to item number 34?





BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I move that

Landmark Event Staffing Services, Incorporated be

granted a new corporate private patrol license, Peter C.

Kranske be granted an individual private patrol license

and that that license be placed in abeyance so that he

may become the qualifying agent. Corporate officer to

be approved is Michael S. Harrison. This is subject to



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Motion and a second. Any

Board comment with regard to the motion?





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It carries unanimous. Welcome to Nevada.

MR. KRANSKE: Thank you, sir.

MR. KAHN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thanks for coming.

Number 35, Adam Wertsbaugh. Did I say that

right?

MR. WERTSBAUGH: Yes, you did.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. Okay. Can

you give us a little bit of background?

MR. WERTSBAUGH: Yes. Good morning, Mr. Chair.

Good morning, Board. My name is Adam Wertsbaugh. I am

a true native to Vegas. I know a lot of people say

native and they were born somewhere else and came here.

But I actually was legit born here.

And, you know, I've been in security since 2002

really, counting the Army, when I was in the Army. And

I am currently the office manager for American Guard

seeking to be the QA.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Well, first, thank

you for your service.

MR. WERTSBAUGH: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And, second, I need to



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point out something, that people that are native-born to

Las Vegas are proud to say that. They never say that

they're native-born in Nevada. They always say they're

native-born to Las Vegas.

MR. WERTSBAUGH: Well, there's not much up

north. No offense.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, I'm a third

generation Nevadan. So.

MR. WERTSBAUGH: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Way back when, when

Las Vegas was a watering hole. And it's still a big

watering hole now.

MR. WERTSBAUGH: And my dad was born in

Henderson, and he tells me the stories of how tiny

everything was, it's so spread out, he had to use a dirt

bike to drive to Vegas.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, no matter what city

you were born in, it's good to see somebody born here.

MR. WERTSBAUGH: Absolutely.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Let's see.

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Adam K. Wertsbaugh be approved for his individual

private patrolman license and that this, his license

should be placed into abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent for American Guard Services, Inc.,

license number 1364. This is subject to all statutory



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I have a motion. Is

there a second? We have a motion and a second. Any

Board comment or question regarding the motion?






MR. WERTSBAUGH: Thank you.


Item number 36, Joseph K. Adamo? Is that the

right pronunciation?

MR. ADAMO: Yes. Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. You're

Joseph?

MR. ADAMO: Yes.

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bit of background?

MR. ADAMO: Yes. I'm excited to be here

today, you know. I spent the last several years raising

my young daughter as a single dad. And now that she's

in school and doing well, I felt it was a good time to

start a small company and that I feel that I have the

most experience in. And I'm just excited to be here.


public comment with regard to item number 36?








Joseph K. Adamo, dba AOPS, be approved an individual

private patrolman license. This is subject to all




second. Is there any Board comment or question






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MR. ADAMO: Thank you, guys.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Moving to Process

Server. Do we need a break? Good?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I have a --


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: -- an 11:00 o'clock

telephone call, telephones conference that, if we could

just keep plugging through until 11:00 clock, I would

appreciate. Because I know, as soon as I step out, we

lose a quorum.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yes, sir. You're in

charge.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Don't want to be in

charge. Just thank you very much. Thank you very much,

Mr. Chair.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Process Server, item

number 37, C & H Couriers.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: They're up north.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: They're up north.


MS. CALHOUN: Good morning.

MR. HOAGLAND: Good morning.

MS. CALHOUN: I'm Dawn Calhoun.



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yourselves? I'm sorry.

MS. CALHOUN: That's okay. I'm Dawn Calhoun.

And this is Brandon Hoagland. We're starting CH

Couriers as local delivery for the legal community and

process servers. I've worked as a legal secretary,

paralegal for the last 20 years and am moving to change

and have my own business. And Brandon has been a

security guard for the last four years. And we're

excited to start this venture together.


Is there any public comment with regard to item

number 37?




BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No, I have none.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Usually I don't raise an

issue that's got some history behind it. But the fact

that there were two bankruptcies, can you give me a

little bit of background about what circumstances

brought on two separate filings?

MS. CALHOUN: Yes. The first one was due to a

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time. He never paid child support or anything. And I

ended up having to file bankruptcy after the divorce.

The second one was due to medical on two of my

children, who one was hospitalized for a few weeks. The

other one, she has an ongoing eye disease and mounting

medical bills and everything. So I was forced to

declare bankruptcy a second time.


MS. CALHOUN: M-hm (affirmative).

MR. HOAGLAND: If I may add, she really did

try. I am her only son. She did do her best to raise

us and take care of us while we were growing up.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, it's just a matter

of full disclosure so that the public doesn't come along

later on and say, why didn't you protect us from

somebody who had two bankruptcies?

MS. CALHOUN: Right.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So, and a lot of times, a

lot of times financial hardship is totally legitimate.

It's just in this environment we've got to air it.

MS. CALHOUN: Right, understood.


MS. CALHOUN: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Any other Board

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C & H Couriers L.L.C. be granted a new corporate process

server license, Dawn M. Calhoun be granted an individual

process server license, that that license be placed in

abeyance so that she may become the qualifying agent.

Member to be approved is Brandon S. Hoagland. This is




second. Is there any Board comment or question




BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I had the same concerns

about the bankruptcies. But, first off, I appreciate

the explanation, the investigative report and the

explanation today. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you, sir. Thank

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Carries unanimous.

MS. CALHOUN: Thank you very much.

MR. HOAGLAND: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Congratulations.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Good luck.

MS. CALHOUN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 38, 705

Investigations, LLC?

MR. DUNN: Back again.


MR. DUNN: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Can you give us

a -- introduce yourself and give us a little bit of

background?

MR. DUNN: My name is Victor Dunn. I'm a

retired North Las Vegas deputy chief. I currently

possess a private investigator's license, along with

private patrolman. I would like to add this one to the

company as well.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You just thought it was

easier to keep coming here, right?

MR. INGRAM: You'll be back for canine.

MR. DUNN: Yes.




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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I was just curious. Most

of the time, the sheriff's office or somebody like that

handles civil process. What type of civil process was

involved in the police department?

MR. DUNN: Well, early on in my career, patrol

officers oftentimes would serve civil papers from out of

state, from agencies that were from out of the state.

So as a police officer, we did serve that. Also, as a

constable, we served civil papers. And I did that

for -- starting January 6 of 2014.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Okay. I'm sorry.

MR. DUNN: About four years.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you. I apologize.

I -- somehow I got confused on that. Thank you for your

explanation. I appreciate it.

Nothing else, Mr. Chair.



Entertain a motion.


705 Investigations, LLC be granted a new corporate



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process server license, Victor L. Dunn be granted an

individual license and that that individual license be

placed in abeyance so that he can become the qualifying

agent. This is subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements.



and/or question regarding the motion?





MR. DUNN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 39, Heather

Ebneter ("Eb-nit-er")?

MS. EBNETER: "Eb-net-er."

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Got close. Can you give

us a little bit of background?

MS. EBNETER: Good morning. My name's Heather

Ebneter. I'm the operations manager of Nevada Legal

Support Services. I've worked with our current

qualified agent, Stephanie Sibley, since 2011. And as

well as that, facing the military. I'm a local

Las Vegan. I'm born and raised. And so Stephanie

Sibley is still employed with the company. However, me



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taking over as a qualifying agent would be a succession

plan, as she wants to move on to do some other stuff.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Is there anybody

in the public who would like to comment on item number

39?

Any Board comment on item number 39?



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I think, I need to make a

disclosure. I believe, my company does some sub work

for your company. But I don't think it's of a major

level. And I'm not even so sure that it's the same one,

but I think it is. I think, we do some work for you in

the boonies.

MS. EBNETER: The boonies. Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: But I don't, I don't have

a conflict, so I'm not disclosing one. But I wanted to

make a public disclosure about the possibility that you

might have paid me $10 once before, but.

All right. Any other Board comment or

questions?



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Any motion,

please.



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Heather L. Ebneter be approved her individual process

serving license and that this license be placed into

abeyance so that she may become the qualifying agent for

Nevada Legal Support Services, LLC, license number 1711.


requirements.




the motion?





MS. EBNETER: Thank you. Have a good day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Tara McClelland, item

number 40?

Good morning. You're Tara?

MS. MCCLELLAND: I am.


bit of background, please?

MS. MCCLELLAND: Yeah. My name is Tara

McClelland. And I have worked for a law firm in the

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subpoenas and process serving work. And so we decided

to make it official. And then I can also do contract

work on the side to help support my family.


MS. MCCLELLAND: That's why I'm here.











Tara L. McClelland be granted an individual process

server license, subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements.



and a second. Any Board comment or questions regarding

the motion?






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MS. MCCLELLAND: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Item number 41, Johnno

Lazetich?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: He's up north.


MR. LAZETICH: Good morning.



MR. LAZETICH: How are you doing? My name is

Johnno Lazetich. In 1981, my dad, my parents came to

Reno and started Reno-Carson Messenger Service. And so

now that I'm about 40, I believe the child labor laws

don't really apply to me that much anymore. And so my

dad's getting old, and so it was time for me to kind

make sure that -- to get my own license, just kind of

protect -- my parents are getting older, and just kind

of protect Reno-Carson and potential, any business

opportunities in the future, aside from Reno-Carson

Messenger Service.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Well, I met your

father, and I would assume he'll let you know when the

rules don't apply anymore.

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regarding number 41?





Entertain a motion.


Johnno W. Lazetich be approved his individual process

server license, this subject to all statutory and



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I have a motion and a


motion?





MR. LAZETICH: All right. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Congratulations.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Moving to the category of

Canine Handler, item number 42, VWK9, LLC?

MR. PEARCE: Good morning.

MR. HAMMOND: Good morning. How are you?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good. How are you?



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If you could introduce yourselves respectively

for the record, and give us a little bit of background.

MR. PEARCE: Good morning, Chairman and

members. My name is John Pearce. If approved, I'll be

the qualifying agent for VWK9. I've got over 35 years

of experience in the canine working dog industry, with

explosive detection. That has been our, my focus. If

approved, we want to bring our services here to

Las Vegas.


MR. HAMMOND: My name is Paul Hammond. I have

28 years in working dogs experience around the world.

Unusually, 20 of those have been in hostile

environments, hazard explosive detection. Iraq,

Afghanistan seven years, Northern Ireland for 15 years.

So we're very excited about the possibility of

bringing the Auburn University patented technology Vapor

Wake, which is body-worn explosive detection, to

Las Vegas and Nevada. So that's why we're here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. But I don't want

to go much further than that. Otherwise, I'm going to

have to get a dictionary and encyclopedia.

Is there any public comment regarding item

number 42?




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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Entertain a

motion.


VWK9, LLC be granted a new corporate canine handler

license, John C. Pearce be granted an individual canine,

canine handler license and that that license be placed

in abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Member approved, Paul M. Hammond. Subject to all



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Motion and a second. Is

there any Board comment or question regarding the

motion?





MR. PEARCE: Thank you.

MR. HAMMOND: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I'd

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this whole process.


MR. PEARCE: Thank you.


Item number 43 in the category of Private

Investigator and Private Patrolman, International

Security Network?

Hi.

MS. ENGLE: Good morning.

MR. CARTON: Good morning.


yourselves and give us a little bit of background?

MS. ENGLE: Hi. My name is Pamela Engle. I'm

a former Reno police officer, retired, and then also

have 13 years of federal court security officer

experience.


MR. CARTON: My name is Vincent Carton. I'm

actually representing ISN on the European branch. So

we're actually assisting the U.S. branch now starting

up. So I'm here to give support and also to represent

Ms. Joan E. Leitner and Jerome F.R. Soine.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair --

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anything here, so we don't have to talk about tariffs,

right?

MR. CARTON: No, that's right.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair?


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I also worked with

Ms. Engle there at the police department. We have no

contact, though, other than on occasional social

gatherings, but nothing business-related.


Is there anyone in the public that would like

to have any comment regarding item number 43?






International Security Network, Incorporated, doing

business as ISN, be granted a new corporate private

investigator and private patrol license, Pamela J. Engle

be granted her individual private investigator license

and private patrol license and that that license be

placed in abeyance so that she may become the qualifying

agent. Corporate officers to be approved are Joan E.

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second. Do we have any comments or questions regarding

the motion?





MS. ENGLE: Thank you.

MR. CARTON: Thank you very much.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Number 44, Kelmar Global.

MR. RIDDLE: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good morning. How are

you?

MR. RIDDLE: Good, thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You're Mr. Riddle?

MR. RIDDLE: I am, yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Great. Kelly Riddle?

MR. RIDDLE: Yes, sir. I've been in law

enforcement seven years. In my 20s, I started my

company 29 years ago with my former partner, who

finished his degree in marriage and family counseling.

That's what he wanted to do in the '90s. So we

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mainly corporate work and preemployment-type work.






BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there a motion?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I would move

that Kelmar Global be approved a new corporate private

investigator's license and private patrolman license and

that Kelly E. Riddle be granted an individual private

investigator and -- investigator and private patrolman

license and that that, those licenses be placed into

abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Corporate officers to be approved are Kelly E. Riddle.


requirements.



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motion?







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MR. RIDDLE: Thank you. Appreciate it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Number 45, PSYOPS

Consulting.

Good morning.

MR. PRIMAS: Good morning.


yourself and give us a little background?

MR. PRIMAS: Yes. Brett Primas, retired law

enforcement here in Las Vegas, about a year and a half

ago. And I've been asked to look into a couple of

different areas. And knowing that I have to be licensed

to do that, that's why I'm here.





BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, just a real

quick question.

How does PSYOPS have to do with the

investigative and private patrol? I was just curious

about what, what your correlation was with that.

MR. PRIMAS: Well, a couple different acronyms

I came up with, depending on what, what I'm going to be

doing. But mainly it would be civil and criminal case

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security and threat assessment.




Entertain a motion?


PSYOPS Consulting, LLC be granted a new corporate

private investigator and private patrol license,

Brett A. Primas be granted an individual private

investigator license and private patrol license, that

that, those licenses be placed in abeyance so that he

may become the qualifying agent. Member to be approved

is Brett A. Primas. And subject to all statutory and





the motion?





Daniel Holley, item number 46.

Good morning.

MR. HOLLEY: Good morning.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Mr. Holley?

MR. HOLLEY: I am.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Nice to see you. Can you

give us a little bit of background?

MR. HOLLEY: My name is Dan Holley, retired

detective of Las Vegas Metro. And my brother is in the

security business here in Las Vegas, has been for over

20 years. And the company he works with was losing

their license or licensing, have relocated out-of-state.

So I became interested. And it was, essentially, at

first, to keep him in work, right, so he wouldn't --

and, but now I've become very interested in the work.

And I'm excited for a bright future, and I'm looking

forward to what's next.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is this an older brother

or a younger brother?

MR. HOLLEY: Younger.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Younger. Who wins the

fights?

MR. HOLLEY: It would be me.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Especially as the QA?

MR. HOLLEY: Especially.


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Any Board comment regarding items number 46?



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Entertain a motion.


Daniel E. Holley be approved and for his individual

private investigator and private patrolman license and

that these licenses be placed into abeyance so that he

may become the qualifying agent for Capital Guard &

Patrol, Inc., license number 1249. Corporate officer to

be approved is Michael J. Johnson. This is subject to




and a second. Is there any Board comment or question






Congratulations.

MR. HOLLEY: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Now we're moving to the

category of Private Patrolman and Canine Handler. And

item number 47 is K2 Solutions.

Good morning.

MR. COPELAND: Good morning, Mr. Chairman.

MR. KJELLSEN: Good morning, sir.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Were you here earlier and

were sworn?

MR. COPELAND: Yes, sir.

MR. KJELLSEN: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Could you

respectively introduce yourselves and give us a little

bit of background?

MR. KJELLSEN: My name is Shayne Kjellsen. I'm

the commercial services manager for K2. I have over 25

years of military and federal level counterterrorism

experience.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you for your

service.

MR. COPELAND: Kelly Copeland. I've been a

San Diego police officer for 10 years, SWAT and canine,

and am currently the law enforcement instructor for K2

Solutions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. What are you

hoping to do in Nevada?

MR. KJELLSEN: Part of our experience and

business over the last year has been we provide a canine

explosive detection services for 12 NFL teams. And in

that instance, we're going to have one here in Nevada

to -- we need to prepare ourselves and go through all

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here in your state as well.







K2 Solutions, Incorporated be granted a new corporate

private patrol and canine handler license, Kelly J.

Copeland, Jr. be granted an individual private patrol

and canine handler license, that that license, those

licenses be placed in abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent. Corporate officers to be approved are

Lane, and I'm going to just say Kjellsen ("Kel-sen"),

James Lynch, Nancy M. Smith and Susan Kjellsen. This is



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: A motion and a second.

Any Board comment or question regarding the motion?




Carries unanimous. Thank you. Welcome to

Nevada.

MR. KJELLSEN: Thank you.



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MR. COPELAND: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Now we move to the

category of Private Investigator, Private Patrolman and

Process Server, item number 48, Michael Carmody.

Good morning.

MR. CARMODY: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Michael Carmody?

MR. CARMODY: Yes, sir.


bit of background and tell us a little something about

what you're hoping to accomplish?

MR. CARMODY: Born and raised in Las Vegas,

retired recently as a captain from North Las Vegas

Police Department after 26 years.

As far as the process server goes, I was

possibly going to work part-time for the North Las Vegas

Constable. So I figured I'd get that. I'm not really

sure whether I need that or not, but I just wanted to be

legal with that.

And I would like to start my own private

investigating bodyguarding company.




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you, Mr. Chair. I've struggled with this process server

qualification. And I don't know about any of the other

Board members. And, I guess, I was going to ask the

investigator how he could verify or how he verified the

hours to qualify for process server. The other one is,

that's -- there's no question. It's just the process

server side of it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Who's the investigator?

MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald. I spoke with

Mr. Carmody, and we went over his hours and his duties

over the years, and he explained to me what he'd been

doing and his process server experience. And I felt he

had enough hours based on his years of experience and

the job descriptions he had provided to me.

MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chair, Investigator

Saladino. Also, part of the duties per NRS 289.027,

that law enforcement agencies are required to adopt

policies and procedures to serve certain subpoenas for

peace officers. So in his capacity as a captain, he

would have to prepare those documents. So that's what

we kind of used as well, when we were going through the

NRS for powers of peace officer, while we were doing

that.


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investigators can feel comfortable with him meeting the

qualifying hours, then I'm comfortable with that.


comment?

Entertain a motion.


Michael L. Carmody be granted his individual private

patrol investigator -- or excuse me -- private

investigator, private patrol and process server, subject









MR. CARMODY: Thank you, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Going to item

number 49, Other Business, Dan E. Taylor.

Good morning again.

MR. TAYLOR: Good morning again.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Let's see. I think,

you're here to ask for an exemption, right?

MR. TAYLOR: That's correct.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And that's for the

Consumer Electronics Show?

MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Maybe, probably, since

you saw quite a few people in the audience, you might

want to give us a brief -- I know what you're looking

for, but the public might not be. So advise. So can

you give us a little quickie on what you need the

exemption for?

MR. TAYLOR: Absolutely. So the Consumer

Electronics Show is actually the largest trade show in

the industry. This past January, there were 184,

184,000 attendees that came to the event here in

Las Vegas. There is, you know, a number of risk

assessments and additional security measures that are

taken to provide extra layers of safety for the event

based on just some of the criteria and profile. There

actually were some federal resources that were applied

this year as well.

The waiver for the police officers is something

that the Consumer Electronics Show has obtained through

their security contractor in years past. And this is

for off -- or active duty out-of-state police officers

that do come in and, based on their experience level,

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additional resources to the event.



BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Nothing here.




Entertain a motion.


Dan E. Taylor, Jr., the qualifying agent for DTA

Security Services, LLC, license number 1067, be granted

an exemption, as outlined in NAC 648.338, for the use of

six active out-of-state peace officers to work in

elevated security positions during the January 2019

Consumer Electrics Show. And, also, that all of the

officers have registered works cards. Subject to all

statutory and --

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Second, is there a

second?


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Let me add, subject to


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, sorry about that.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No, that's me.

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a second. Any Board comment or question regarding the

motion?




Carries unanimous.

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you.


ESI Security Services.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: They're here in the

north, Mr. Chair.

MR. CAMPBELL: Good morning, Mr. Chair. Rick

Campbell. With me is Mr. Hendi today.


Mr. Ingram, can you give us the background on

this agenda item?

MR. INGRAM: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

ESI Security Services had -- we've come to a

stipulated agreement with them recently. They have been

compliant with all of the agreement. And as part of the

agreement, they were given the opportunity to petition

for an advisory opinion on how to -- what

classifications within their company would require

registered work cards and which ones would not.

Mr. Hendi provided me a list of proposed



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positions for us to review. And at the direction of the

Board, I reviewed those positions. I drafted a letter,

which Board members were copied on, outlining what the

expectations were.

In response to that, Mr. Hendi and his counsel

drafted the petition for advisory opinion. And I find

that all of the items that were outlined in their

petition were in line with what our letter, what the

intent of our letter was, and feel that we both have

come to a genuine understanding of what's expected

within the scope of both of those letters.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Mr. Campbell,

Mr. Hendi, do you have any response?

MR. CAMPBELL: I'd just like to add that the

primary issue here was the Events Services employees.

As you know, in the past, there have been some citations

regarding the scope of what the Events Services

employees could or couldn't do at an event.

And so we just want to be very clear that as

part of an Event Services employee's -- as an example,

you're all familiar with the Peppermill cup swap for a

plastic cup versus a paper -- or a glass bottle or a

glass cup. So we want to be very clear that in that

process, an Events Services employee will have to

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there'll be a stop, as far as being able to converse

with them, but that Events Services employee does not

have any ability to detain, refrain or stop a person

from going on to an event with a glass cup. That's an

example.

So we've outlined three or four of these. We

just want to make sure that, as a necessary part of an

Events Services employee to be a ticket taker, an usher,

those types of things, that there is a -- not really a

stop, but there's a --

MR. HENDI: Pause.

MR. CAMPBELL: There's just, there's a pause to

allow them to, the two people have to converse to get

the message across of either swapping a cup or getting a

wristband or buying a ticket.

So that's a clarification that Mr. Hendi and

Mr. Ingram discussed. We're all on board on that. I

think, we've got a clear understanding that, that as

long as they stay within that parameters, don't try to

physically restrain a person if they refuse to, say,

take a paper cup, that that's not a function that should

be the employee should be registered.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So in the particular

position that we're in now is, does the correspondence

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official opinion of how the Board views it and this is

going to be the written word from this point forward?

MR. CAMPBELL: Yes, that was part of the

stipulation. And Ms. Bordelove, maybe Ms. Bordelove can

speak to that if she'd like to.

MS. BORDELOVE: I can kind of speak to what --

the petition was made under one of your administrative

regulations, NAC 648.430, which allows the -- it allows

anybody. So this isn't just pursuant to any

stipulation. At any point, an applicant or licensee may

petition the Board for a declaratory order or advisory

opinion concerning the interpretation or applicability

of any provision of the statute or regulation or of any

decision of the Board which directly affects the

applicant or licensee conducting activities required to

be licensed by Chapter 648.

So this petition falls under there. The Board

will issue an advisory opinion that will be official

based -- I mean that'll be drafted and issued after

today's meeting based on what the Board decides.

So this is something the Board needs to look at

and decide. And, I think, the background Kevin was

trying to give is that at this point we're not in

disagreement with anything that they are petitioning.

The letter you were copied with, kind of this is Board



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staff's position on those same job descriptions.

My only advice, I think, to the Board would be,

to the extent that you are considering, keep to making

the order specific to job descriptions given and not

necessarily regarding things beyond, because we could go

on forever speculating what could happen outside of, you

know, out of those, but keep to the descriptions that

are in the petition and whether the Board feels those

job descriptions would require licensure.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And so, at this juncture,

we would be in a position to, if it's the Board's

pleasure, adopt the findings that are concluded in the

correspondence, ask you as legal counsel to provide us

with the opinion for the Board, and then --

MS. BORDELOVE: Right, I'll be drafting the

opinion like they do with board orders.


MS. BORDELOVE: But you could adopt, if you

agree with what was written by Kevin, you can.


public comment? Or do you have anything additional,

Mr. Campbell?

MR. CAMPBELL: No, I think, the petition that

we filed outlines the positions that the parties

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so we're fine with getting these positions, Events

Services employees in these particular positions, being

defined as not being having to be registered as long as

they are doing what's in the job description.


Is there any public comment regarding item

number 50?

Any Board discussion regarding items number 50?



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I

just want to make sure, though. And the case is the

Events Services personnel and the ESI personnel all will

be wearing different uniforms clearly identifying their

individual respective association with the event?

MR. CAMPBELL: That's correct. And as an

example, if an Events Services employee talks to a

patron and says, "You have to swap your glass out," and

that patron, you know --

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Just moves on.

MR. CAMPBELL: If he keeps moving on, then that

Events Services employee will contact an ESI saying this

person has breached security, you know, and that person

will take care of it.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.



Entertain a motion.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I probably

should just restate, as I have in the past, you know,

I'm a member of a social club, a social organization

with both Mr. Hendi and Mr. Campbell. We occasionally

run into each other at different times at this

particular event. But we have absolutely no

relationship outside that, that club. And I don't feel

like there's any conflict for me to vote on this issue.


That being said, would you like to make a

motion?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Well, let me try. Let me

try.

Mr. Chair, I would move that ESI Security

Services, Incorporated, license number 700, Mahmoud

"Mike" Hendi, that he be granted his petition pursuant

to NRS 648.430 related to the requirements for

registration under NRS 648.060 for employees of ESI

and/or Events Services.

MS. BORDELOVE: So this isn't really a petition

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them and either incorporate the letter, as Chairman Zane

suggested, or look at the job descriptions and say, and

simply make a motion to state that the descriptions as

written either do or do not require licensure.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Can I refer to the

petition and indicate that the job descriptions, as

outlined in A, B, C, D and E of that petition, be

granted? Counsel, you got to help me out here.

MS. BORDELOVE: Let me see. I don't have it.

Do you have the petition?

MR. INGRAM: I've got it right here.

MS. BORDELOVE: So --

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: And I don't have Kevin's

letter, so I can't refer to that specifically. Somebody

else might.

MS. BORDELOVE: You could simply say, if you

feel that they do not need, like I'm sure you could say

that the job descriptions, as outlined in A, B, C, you

know, from the petition, that your motion is that, as

described, they don't require licensure.

Is that what you're trying to get to? Because,

in fact, that would be, for the record, I think, that

motion would get the point across, that the

descriptions, you could do one at a time, or you can

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make the motion that they, the descriptions, as written,

do not require licensure.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: All right. And, Kevin,

that's good for you?

MR. INGRAM: Yes, we agreed to that. Yes,

absolutely.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: All right. So let me

kind of rephrase the motion to say that, in response to

the petition by Mr. Hendi, my motion is that job

descriptions in the petition, as outlined in: A,

checking patrons at an event who have a glass drink

container and offer them plastic container, when the

event organizer does not want glass containers on their

premises, does not require licensure; that, B, checking

patrons at an event for identification to ascertain

whether they are of legal age to consume alcohol and,

therefore, issue the wristbands, wristband, does not

requires licensure; checking or scanning tickets for

entry into an event venue does not require licensure;

staffing a parking lot or access point to parking does

not require licensure; and, E, staffing the ticket sales

booth for either parking or entrance into a venue does

not require licensure. When, in the event a patron does

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Counsel, does that work?

MS. BORDELOVE: Yes.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. We have a motion.

Is there a second?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Second. Any Board

comment or question on the motion?




Passes unanimously.

MR. CAMPBELL: Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I'm going to

have to step out.


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I'm going to have to step

out of the room for probably about a half an hour.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Half an hour?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. We're going to be

on a break for a minimum of a half an hour. The reason

being is that Mr. Nadeau has a private matter that he

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who are missing. So we must have three people in order

to conduct business. So with Mr. Nadeau taking his time

that he needs to take right now, we're not able to

continue this until he comes back and there's three of

us.

So, at a minimum, so that you can plan on

things, we won't be back until 11:30 at least. So check

back at 11:30. We won't start without you before then,

guaranteed.

We're on break.

* * * * *

(A break was taken, 10:55 to 11:34 a.m.)

* * * * *

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Let's go back.

We're back in session.

Let's go back to item number 19, please.

That's AccuSource, Inc. Is there anybody from

AccuSource here?

MS. DONALD: Mr. Chairman, she did state she

may have scheduling conference, but she didn't let us

know for sure.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Well, then, we'll

trail it till the end of the meeting.

That brings us back up to item number 51, Vegas

Valley Evictions, Andrea Richards?



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MS. BORDELOVE: You have the old agenda.

MR. INGRAM: Oh, yeah, we gave you the new one.


MR. INGRAM: This changed.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So it's not on

there at all?

MR. INGRAM: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Never mind. So,

then, we move to Registration Appeals.

MR. INGRAM: We've got a number 51 still.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, okay. Oh. Oh.

Okay. You put something in its place.

MR. INGRAM: I did.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I got it now.

MR. INGRAM: I did. Testing you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Okay. Item

number 51 is an item to possibly elect a Chair.

I'm currently the Chair of the Board. But my

membership in the Board ends the last day of this month.

And I asked the Governor, or I advised the Governor's

Office that I didn't wish to seek reappointment. So I

wasn't going to make application. So that means that

the Chairman goes away at the end of this meeting, or

it's the last day of the month, whatever situation

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So, for me -- and many people might not have

been aware of it. Every three years these positions

come up to be considered, and you have to apply to be

considered and all this stuff. I've been here almost

nine years. I thought that I had one more term left in

me. But when it came down to the deadline to make the

application, I had to weigh a certain -- a lot of

different things, and many of which are things

associated with my business, things associated with

getting things accomplished that you intend to do when

you set out to do public service and whatnot.

The catalyst probably more than anything is two

factors for me to not seek reappointment. And those two

factors are the business environment is changing

radically. And there are certain -- many people would

think that when you have a position like this, and you

are also in the industry, that might tend to give you

some benefit being in that situation. Where in

actuality it tends to create a hardship. Because in

this particular position you have to not only pay

attention to your ethical obligations in accordance with

statute, but you also have to pay attention to just the

appearance of those ethical obligations, not just, maybe

do I violate something if I do this? Or does it even

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So it tends to hold your arm behind your back

when you're trying to operate a business. And, you

know, for example, here recently I had a couple of

problem customers in my business. And when they wanted

some resolution to a problem that I didn't feel that I

was liable for, their next step was, logically, we're

going to sue you, we're going to do this, we're going to

do that. It's the normal things that you deal with.

And then, when that doesn't get the reaction

that they're hoping for, then they find on Google that

you have this other position. So then they say, well,

maybe I'll just make some problems with you with the

Governor's Office, and I'll do these other things that

start to become kind of like a course of nature. So

that kind of keeps your arm behind your back and, you

know, things of that nature.

I'm not to close to retirement that I don't

have to pay attention to what my business needs are. So

it's -- and, also, some competitors like to take the

same position and say, well, he might be making a

benefit on this, he might be making a benefit on that.

And I run a business that we have national clients. So

I get a little feedback about what some of my

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So the bottom line is, is that before I allow

it to have a negative impact on my business, and so that

it doesn't have a negative impact to this Board or the

staff of this Board for the work that gets done here,

I've elected to say that I can't continue to dance with

one arm behind my back. So since there's a few people

inviting me to dance, and I don't mind dancing, I think

I'll release that arm from behind me and keep my

balance.

So I'm all done here at the end of the month.

So that needs for this Board to take an action to elect

a Chairman so it continues to go. And I trail along on

my merry way.

As I was before, I was a fairly active

participant in these meetings before I ever came on this

Board. And I would assume that I'll be just as active

as I was before, but it'll probably be on that side of

the table.

So from that perspective, I'm not missing much.

I set out to do a lot of things, and I put a pretty

healthy agenda on the staff, on myself. A lot of those

things didn't get done in that time frame that I had

envisioned, because of a lot of different things outside

of our control. You know, the budget issues being what

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vacancies being what they are, the Governor imposed a

couple of moratoriums on regulations and statutory

changes. There's government-imposed timelines for

getting laws changed if you're doing it from a Board

seat rather than just running out and grabbing a

legislator and saying, here's my contribution, take my

ideas to the Legislature.

So there's certain things that you can get

accomplished here, and there's certain things you can

get accomplished over there. I've served here for

almost nine years, done the best job that I thought I

could do, and now I'm done on this side of it.

So that's why the agenda item is here.

And is there any public comment on item number

51?

UNIDENTIFIED MAN IN LAS VEGAS: Thank you for

your service.


Okay. Any Board comment to item number 51?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mark?

MR. INGRAM: I'd like to --



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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meetings and doing what was necessary. And so,

obviously, we all appreciate it.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, thank you for

your --

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: My pleasure.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Thank you for your

diligence.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: No problem. My pleasure.

MR. INGRAM: And, also, we have the staff,

Mark, who want to thank you for your leadership, your

guidance, your support that you've given us over the

years. I'm going to miss having you sit here next to

me. But, you know, like everything in life that goes

on, we'll have a new Chairman here. And if there's

anything we can do to help you out, just reach out and

let us know.


MR. INGRAM: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So, as for item

number 51, we'll have the vacancy on the Chair. So we

need to make a motion to nominate somebody that would be

willing to do it. And if nobody has any qualms, I would

make a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Go ahead.

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I'd make a motion that Jim Nadeau be made Chair.

Is there a second? Let's have a second before

he says no.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I'd second that.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, for the record, I did

speak with Board Member Flynn, who was not able to

attend today. He fully supports the nomination and

would vote in favor of Mr. Nadeau assuming the duties of

Chairman. Also, in speaking with Board Member Nixon,

she was not interested in running for Chair this time.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. All right. So

we've got a motion and a second. Any Board comment or

questions on the motion?




Carries unanimous. But that's not till this

meeting's over. I'm still in charge. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I just hope I can do as

good a job as you have.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I know you can.

Okay. Item number 52, Registration Appeals,

Tomas Baltazar?

Nothing in the south. All right. We'll trail

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David Banks, for 53?

How are you doing?

MR. BANKS: I'm all right. How are you?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Were you sworn in

earlier?

MR. BANKS: No, sir, I was not.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Can I let

everybody know, you need to, if you're here for a

registration appeal or to speak to the Board on anything

other than just a general public comment, you'll need to

stand, raise your right hand and be sworn.

MS. BORDELOVE: Do you swear that the testimony

you give today will be the truth, the whole truth, and

nothing but the truth?

(All applicants and witnesses present were

sworn.)


Okay. Mr. Banks. Let's see. Who's the

investigator on Mr. Banks?

MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Please.

MS. DONALD: Let's see. In 1991, Mr. Banks had

a willful discharge of a firearm out of California, and

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charge. He was convicted, had 24 months jail with the

majority being suspended.

Mr. Banks did disclose both arrests. And since

the early 1990's, he has not been arrested since that

time.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Mr. Banks, can you

give us a little background about those, those arrests

and convictions?

MR. BANKS: One was discharged in the back

yard, but nothing violent or anything. And the other

one, I must have currently checked out, because I never

had a violation. I wasn't that kind of kid.


MR. BANKS: So. I raised my kids not to be

that kind of kid.


MR. BANKS: So far, I've been successful.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And these, these

were disclosed?

MS. DONALD: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. I failed to make a

disclosure about the registration appeals. Those of you

who were here earlier heard me ask for public comment

before we went to Board comment on the situations. In

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the public really doesn't have any participation in

these registration appeals. This is between the

appellant and the Board. So I won't be asking for

public comment, and we won't, we don't entertain it,

because there's due process issues that we have to pay

attention to. So I won't be asking for public comment

during this portion of the process.

Sorry if I interrupted you.

MR. BANKS: No problem.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Are there any

other Board comments or questions?



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: If you'll accept a

motion, I'll make one.


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I would move

that David Banks' registration be granted and the denial

be overturned.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We have a motion. Is

there a second?


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, explanation,

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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: It's been well over 20

years since Mr. Banks has any type of criminal record.

And I believe that time and distance and that type of

thing, he deserves another chance.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you, sir.

MR. BANKS: Thank you, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board comment

or question?



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Opposed, say "no."

It's been approved. Your appeal is granted,

and you'll be given a work card.

MR. BANKS: Thank you, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Alfred Clark?

Good morning.

MR. CLARK: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Investigator

Saladino.

MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino.

Mr. Clark was applied. When it came time to renew his

work card, there was a 2012 carrying a concealed weapon

without a permit. Mr. Clark served one year of

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credentials. He can still, you know, have a firearm.

He has provided court documents as well as letters from

security companies that wish to hire him, and also works

as a trainer in regards to firearms.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. But the end result

was a gross misdemeanor, correct?

MR. SALADINO: Correct.


questions?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Yes. Mr. Chair, would

you ask him to go ahead and explain what the

circumstances were.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, I'm sorry. Would you

tell us about the arrest and the process.

MR. CLARK: Yes, sir. While working at the --

a gun show, my motorcycle jacket had fallen over the top

of my pistol. And during a brief encounter with the

person that I was working for, who had shorted me my

pay, one of the other employees decided to run over and

grab one of the police officers there. And while I was

leaving, with my pay settled, the police officer decided

to come over and talk to me. My jacket being over the

top of my pistol at the time, he decided to cite me and

send me off.

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before?

MR. CLARK: Yes, sir, over a year ago.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. All right. Okay.

MR. CLARK: Since then, I've taken several,

several more weapons classes. I'm still an instructor

for one of the local companies, working with them,

teaching law enforcement. I've also gotten my Virginia

guard card, which is a five-day weapons class, helped

actually part of the -- instruct part of that class with

a company called EPI, Executive Protection Institute.

In addition to that, taking their executive protection

class.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So you had applied

before, we upheld the --

MR. CLARK: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- the denial?

MR. CLARK: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And now you're back a

year later?

MR. CLARK: A little over a year, yes, sir.


MR. CLARK: I had to leave the state for

approximately 18 months.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board comment?

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Alfred J. Clark be granted and approved his card, his

reversal changed.


to grant the appeal. Is there a second?







Carries unanimous. We will issue the card.

MR. CLARK: Thank you, gentlemen.


Taham Cristilli. I might have butchered that.

Taham, T-A-H-A-M, Cristilli?

All right. We'll trail it.

Lamont DuBose?

Okay. Well, let's see. Who's the

investigator?

MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino.


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felony conviction. He did not disclose it on his

application. He had an unauthorized use of a credit

card and the credit card as theft, where he received a

fine, to pay restitution and three years probation out

of --

MR. DUBOSE: Louisiana.

MR. SALADINO: Louisiana.

In 2003, crime against nature, slash,

prostitution, where he also received a fine, suspended

sentence and probation.

And in 2004, illegal possession of a stolen

credit card. It was a felony, where he served three

years of probation. And his P&P probation was

terminated unsatisfactory.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Can you give us a

rundown on the criminal history?

MR. DUBOSE: Yes. This was during a time

period that I was getting out of, you know, hanging

around people that were in bad elements. And so it was

usually a situation where I was with other people, and I

would get caught along with them. You know, it has been

a while, 16 years since any of this has happened.

And I did, I did do restitution for the one,

yeah, many of the charges, and actually I ended up

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I'm actually employed with CSC and East Ridge

and Reliance Security. So I'm able to, you know, still

get employment, even though, you know, this is pending.

The reason why I did not list it, I believed, I thought

that when you're on probation, I thought, when you

complete the probation, you ended up like it's not, you

know, it's not, you're not convicted, in other words.

And so I didn't put that on there because I thought it

had been taken care of. I thought it had been

completed. And so that's why.

And, but, on these, on the one, I did have to

pay on one of these charges, that I did pay, you know,

pay all restitution, and everything was completed on all

those charges.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: But what, what part of

the application process led you to believe that you

didn't need to disclose the arrests?

MR. DUBOSE: I thought that, I thought that it

was if you're convicted. And I thought that when you

had probation, you weren't convicted. And so I was

confused. You know, I thought that when you were

convicted, you didn't have probation, when you had

probation, you didn't have like a conviction. And so,

you know, I didn't fill it.

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that you had any participation in the criminal justice

process is when?

MR. DUBOSE: 2004.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: 2004?

MR. DUBOSE: Yes. And, actually, I looked

those cases up, and there was -- all payments were

received, and all cases were closed. I had to go to the

docket and look them up myself, too.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And you mentioned you're

working for some different licensees. In what capacity?

MR. DUBOSE: Yeah, that was when I had my

probationary licensing. And as soon I got that, then I

got the employment with CSC as an event -- you know,

event services.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So then, once the

Board notified you, then you got --

MR. DUBOSE: Yeah, then it was, basically, I

couldn't work anymore, because I had to explain it to

you today, what happened. I'm actually -- they're

waiting for me to figure it out. Because I'm employed

with CSC and Reliance and did a good job there.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So can you tell me

about the circumstances about the criminal charges?

MR. DUBOSE: Yes. A lot of this activity was

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who were a bad element. And I don't know, if you just,

when you come out of that element, then you realize the

things you've done. And, you know, being around that

element, I had to remove myself and leave that, that

city. And everything changed for the better after that.

I went to Miami. I had my real estate license. I'm a

wedding planner now in Nevada, I mean a wedding

officiant and a notary public.

So everything changed by leaving that

environment. And I've never been in trouble again.


questions?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I have a question. What

created the situation where your probation was

terminated unsatisfactory for the felony charge?

MR. DUBOSE: You know, I saw that. But I don't

know what they meant by that, because it says

unsatisfactorily, but then it's release issued. So case

closed. So even though it says unsatisfactory, it says

release issued and case closed. So the case was closed,

and it says the fines were paid, paid in full. So they

ended up getting the payment, but then it says

unsatisfactory. But that's not -- it says release

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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Does the investigator

have any further on that, on that issue?

MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino. When I

tried to contact the P&P department in Louisiana, he did

unsatisfactory because it took so long for the

restitution to be paid. But the restitution was paid.

And that's just what their records put down as, as

happening.

MR. DUBOSE: M-hm (affirmative), yeah.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other questions?





BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I would move that Lamont

DuBose be granted his registration and his denial be

overturned.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there a second?



and a second. Any Board comment or question on the

motion?




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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All -- Oh, I'm sorry.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: If I may make a couple

comments. Number one, under normal circumstances, I

would, because of the nondisclosure, I wouldn't even, I

wouldn't consider this. But we do have, we have some

time and distance. I'm sure that if he applies again,

he will realize that when it says arrests, convictions,

it means it. But there's a change of, change of time

and a change of location that I'm putting in, that I'm

taking this into consideration.




BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Did you second?





Carries unanimous. We'll be issuing you a

card.

MR. DUBOSE: It's in Reno?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Pardon?

MR. INGRAM: We'll be in contact.

MR. DUBOSE: Okay.

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Dukes?

We'll trail 57.

Charles Gardiner?

Good morning, or afternoon. Are you "Gard-ner"

or "Gar-deen-er"?

MR. GARDINER: Either one's fine.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. Investigator

Donald.

MS. DONALD: Yes. I denied Mr. Gardiner for

the carrying a concealed weapon back in 1998. He was

convicted. It was a misdemeanor charge. He received

probation and a fine. He did disclose that arrest.

And he had a couple more. One was from 2001,

willful obstruction of a law officer. He disclosed.

And then, in 1996, simple assault, which was dismissed.

And he disclosed that as well.

I wrote -- at the time of the report, we didn't

have his fingerprint results back. Since then, we have

received them, and it was just those three arrests,

which he disclosed all three.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you tell us the

circumstances surrounding those, those arrests?

MR. GARDINER: Yes. So, in '96, I think that

was the simple assault. I was working as a loss

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done an arrest. And the person that we arrested became

agitated and whatnot. Anyway, she ended up calling the

police on us because, when we searched her, she didn't

have anything. But it wasn't my case. I was supporting

another officer on the case. And it went to trial.

Things got dismissed, because even her lawyer was the

one who dismissed the charges against us based on the

fact that we're simply just trying to ask her questions

and she became erratic.

The second one, with the concealed weapon, that

time, I'd come off a deployment. I lived with a

girlfriend who was, you know, a pretty passionate

person. I mean not that, I mean not in that way. But,

you know, very -- but, yeah, she loves trouble. Right?

And she was a little unstable. And I came off

deployment. I didn't want to really talk to her because

she was trying to figure out where we were going and

whatnot.

Well, anyway, I tried to stop her from leaving

the house. So I took my weapon and concealed it the

front of my pants. And I went to the store to get, you

know, a pack of cigarettes, just to cool off, you know,

give everything time to cease. And on my way back, she

had been doing loops on this access road. And she had

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me.

A police officer saw the blinkers on. And he

saw me. He stopped me. And he's like, "Hey, you know,

what's going on?" It's like, "Ah, nothing." "Put your

hands up," the whole deal. Did that. And before he

started to search me, I informed him, I was like, "Hey,

officer, I just want you to know that there's a weapon

in my pants, behind me." At which time he arrested me.

You know, when we got in the back of his squad car, I

pretty much explained like, look, man, I didn't feel

safe, you know, leaving the weapon in the house. And at

the time, I couldn't think of any other option. You

know, I mean I wasn't going to leave it in the bush or,

you know, try to hide it somewhere in the house.

Because I'm pretty sure, she probably would have found

it.

So that being said, they confiscated the

weapon, asked me if it was my military weapon. I was

like, no. They kept it. Paid the fine, did probation,

and that was it.


MR. GARDINER: And then what's the other one?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Willful obstruction of a

law enforcement officer in Georgia.

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place. At the time, they had closed down this district

known as Bucket. Not really closed it down. It was

still open. But they were really enforcing on people

standing in the street and all this other stuff. So my

cousin and I, we had just come out of a place and were

walking across the street. And as we're walking across

the street, a cop car comes speeding up. You know, I

mean it was going fast. Right? And by time I'm

looking, he's got his blinkers on. So I stopped. I

looked, continued to walk. And, yeah, he was like,

"Hey, come over here." You know, and then that was

that.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board comments?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: None.



that we grant the appeal for Charles Gardiner, based

upon time and distance and the fact that he reported all

these issues.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: There's a motion. Is

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Passes unanimously. And we'll issue you a

card.

MR. GARDINER: All right. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Joseph Gennuso?

MR. GENNUSO: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Let's see. Investigator

Saladino.

MR. SALADINO: Yes. Investigator Saladino.

The applicant was denied for a 2010 battery with

substantial bodily harm, and it was a felony, where the

applicant received three years of probation. He did

disclose the arrest, provided court documents, and knew

that because of this, this case, that he would come

today before the Board for the appeal hearing. That was

the only arrest in his history when we got his

fingerprints and everything. And he did disclose it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So this happened in 2010?

MR. SALADINO: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So probation ended in

'13, '14?

MR. SALADINO: The last part of '13.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So nothing with

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MR. SALADINO: Right.

MR. GENNUSO: If I may say, that actually was

an incident that happened in December, December 20th of

2008, and the arrest itself took place in 2010 for it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Can you tell us

about the circumstances surrounding that?

MR. GENNUSO: Kind of an interesting situation.

Not sure if you guys remember the wedding chapel brawl

downtown. Turned out to be a pretty big mess, if you

will, between the Hells Angels and the Mongrels.

I was invited as an actual guest of the

daughter of the actual groom. Which I had just met her

three weeks prior at my job at the time that leased a

space inside the Hard Rock. She asked if I wanted to

go. Got there. Unbeknownst to me, her dad was the

president of the Hells Angels. There was Hells Angels

standing outside of the chapel when I arrived. And I

actually was looking around in kind of disbelief myself.

After, she was, "Oh, by the way, my dad's president of

the Hells Angels." I was like, okay, well, we're at a

wedding chapel, what could happen?

So that's where it passed, the whole thing. A

big fight breaks out. Not to go into a full detail, it

was 1700, the disposition on the thing. The fight took

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chapel. I believed that was the woman that I was there

with. And I knew that she was never away from her dad's

side. After that time, I ran inside the chapel. A big

fight's going on. I'm walking into it. I noticed that

the girlfriend is nowhere around. I see her brother,

which is the groom, standing around a pile of people

that are on top of her dad. I put my arm around him.

At the time, so you guys also understand, I was

working as a bail enforcement agent. So I put my arm

around him, and I'm backing away from the pile of these

people with him, and I heard somebody yell, "Knife." At

the time, there was a guy crawling towards us, just

flailing his arms wildly. I backed away, and I hit him

two times. It shows on the tape. It was, it came out

in testimony and everything during the trial.

That's, that was my whole involvement. I

backed away from that, knowing, like I said, being a

bail enforcement agent, I put my hands on this guy, I

was now liable for his wellbeing. So watching him run

across the run room, fell into the wall and was being

jumped by four or five different guys, I took it upon

myself, got in the middle of it, grabbed him by his

shirt, and drug him out the door and threw him down

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I turned around and ran and got into my car and left the

property.

Two years after that, that's when the actual

indictments were handed down, everything went on. Court

was going on. The trial was going on. And after so

many continuances, I felt the only way I was going to be

able to at that point, you know, get on with my life was

just take a deal. I wanted to go to court with this.

And the D.A., for one reason, time after time after time

after time, kept continuing it. So at that point, I

took a deal and took the felony battery.

Because, like I said, I wanted to go in front

of the judge and be able to argue my case on why it was

self-defense on my part. A guy's coming at me with a

knife. And I actually asked the investigator, "So,

should I let him stab me?" And he goes, "Well, yeah,

then you have self-defense." I was like, "Well, if he

stabbed me the right way, I'm not here, and now you guys

have a murder trial on the other end, too."

So I took it upon myself and just took that

deal at the time. Which I now realize has altered my

life for the worst. I mean at that point, I was, being

a bail person, you know, I was well on my way to working

into going to Metro and being SWAT by this time. That

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it.


comments or questions?



MR. GENNUSO: If I can make one last statement

on my own behalf?


MR. GENNUSO: I just, I know what it looks like

on paper. And I can assure you folks that that's not

the gentleman that's standing before you today. I'm a

family man. I have a brand-new son that's actually 17

months old. He's in the hospital today because he's

having issues. He's got Down syndrome.

I've worked in multiple aspects of helping

people reacclimate to daily life from the military. I

donate my time with at-risk youth. I do all the things

that I can to help out the community, if you will.

Because, again, I wasn't born here, but I've been here

since I was 10 months old, and I love Las Vegas. And I

want to make it a better place.

And I'm just respectfully requesting from the

Board an opportunity to be able to get back to the only

thing I've ever done in my life, which is security work

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guys' time today.


Entertain a motion.

Second call for a motion.

I'd move that we grant the appeal for Joseph

Gennuso. Is there a second?



and a second. Is there any comment or question on the

motion?

I make the motion because I am a little bit

familiar with the transaction that took place at the

incident. It was a long, drawn-out prosecution process

with a lot of possibly questionable antics by the state

as well as a lot of criminal defense attorneys that I

recall. And that's borne by the -- when you say it

happened in 2008 and then you weren't in the system

until 2010, that indicates the labor necessary to at

least bring the indictments.

So usually this would be a tough call. If it

would have been battery with substantial bodily harm,

just because you met somebody and got into it with

somebody, I probably wouldn't have made that motion.

But, like I say, I was familiar with the activity

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location. And the fact that you weren't in the best

company in the world.

MR. GENNUSO: I had just met those folks that

day, unfortunately.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: But the fact that you're

not before us for anything since then says a lot. So

that's why, that's why I made the motion.

MR. GENNUSO: Thank you, sir.



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I just, if I may, I just

have one question for Mr. Gennuso.

Were you a member of the -- were you associated

with, other than being with the daughter of the head of

the group, were you associated with any of the groups,

the motorcycle groups?

MR. GENNUSO: No, sir. I actually, I had just

met those people that day and met the daughter three

weeks prior at my actual job. And after this incident

took place, within that, that month or two period, I

severed all contact with everybody involved. I didn't,

I didn't want to become a member. I didn't want to be

any kind of friends of the members. It was one of the

things, like I said, had ruined my dream of becoming law

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judged by the company you keep. And I knew right then

and there that wasn't the company that I wanted to keep.



Anything else?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: (Shook head negatively.)




Carries unanimous. We will get you a card.

MR. GENNUSO: Okay. Is there something I do at

all, or do you guys just contact me?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We'll contact you.

MR. GENNUSO: Thank you. Have a good day.

Sir, thank you for your time and your service.


Christopher Gentry?

MR. GENTRY: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good afternoon.

Let's see. Investigator Saladino.


The applicant was denied for a 2000 arrest out of

Georgia for pointing or aiming a gun at another. It was

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this arrest and conviction stemmed from a law

enforcement incident where he was a deputy. And he did

disclose it on his application.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Can you explain

that a little bit for us?

MR. GENTRY: Yes, sir. I was a police officer

at the time. I had been on the force since '96. And I

got out on the stop and put the two individuals that

were fighting inside of a vehicle early in the morning.

I want to say it was 2:30, 3:00 in the morning, I

believe. That was so long ago, I don't remember

exactly, but. And I separated the two individuals. And

the wife became belligerent and started to fight and

argue with me.

And I completely mishandled the situation.

Instead of verbally deescalating the situation, I

stepped back and drew my weapon and waited for backup to

get there, so I could keep an eye on both of them.

Which I should have just deescalated it, looking back on

it. And, unfortunately, I just handled it incorrectly.

And then probably six months later, they

charged me, and I plead out to the two years probation.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: That was a misdemeanor,

right?

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Any Board

questions?

Entertain a motion.


Christopher Gentry be granted his registration and the

denial be overturned.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Second? We have a motion

and a second. Any comment or question regarding the

motion?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, first off, the

length of the time, the fact that he just did disclose,

I think, are important on this point.





Carries. We'll give you a card.

MR. GENTRY: Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate

it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Scott Heitkamp

("Heet-kamp")? Did I say that right?

MR. HEITKAMP: "Hyte-kamp."

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: "Hyte-kamp." I'm sorry

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MR. HEITKAMP: I've been called worse.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Investigator Donald.

MS. DONALD: Yes. I denied Mr. Heitkamp his

work card for possession and manufacturing and selling a

dangerous weapon. That's what the charge stated. This

happened in 1986. He was convicted. According to the

fingerprints, he received 36 months probation. And he

did disclose the arrest.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you fill us in on the

circumstances surrounding the arrest?

MR. HEITKAMP: Yeah. It's kind of funny. I

was actually walking in Riverside. And I was having a

carnival at the time. I was visiting some friends. And

I was wearing the spiked gauntlet, the -- back in the

'80s where like really everybody was wearing at the

time. The difference is because I had a ring, that when

I closed the fist, they classified as a brass knuckle.

I didn't, wasn't aware. Then I offered it to the

officer, and he said, "No, you're going to jail."

I was released on Monday. This happened on a

Friday night. Monday morning, I was released. The

judge said, "You're out of here." And I wasn't even

aware of the probation. They didn't tell me. They just

said, "You're out of here." And that was it.

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Board questions?


Entertain a motion.


we grant the appeal for Scott Heitkamp, based upon time

and distance and the fact that he did disclose.








Carries unanimous. We'll be issuing you a

card.

MR. HEITKAMP: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Will Hopkins?

Good afternoon.

MR. HOPKINS: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Investigator Maxwell.

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir. Investigator Maxwell.

Mr. Hopkins was denied.

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Mr. Hopkins had 22 convictions, six at the felony level.

And he was initially made provisional. All the

convictions were found on the fingerprints, which he did

not initially disclose. When contacted, he did provide

an arrest history. There is an attached spreadsheet

detailing all the convictions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Mr. Hopkins, there's

quite a few things. I don't know that we can go through

all of them in particular. Was there a particular

reason that you didn't disclose any of these arrests?

MR. HOPKINS: Well, for one, I was -- it

happened so long ago. Okay. I was on drugs. And I got

out and I got in rehab. And the reason I didn't

disclose it, because I was under the impression that

after so long, I didn't have to do it. When I got off

parole, my parole officer told me I didn't have to do

that anymore. And so.

I got out of jail, and I ended up having a

life-changing experience. You know, in 2010, I ended up

having, I had a cancer operation, and I survived it.

And that changed my whole life. You know, I went to the

drug program. And I've been clean ever since. And I

don't know. It was just my fault, you know. I admit

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using drugs or petty thefts and so on. And I didn't

have any violence in my record. And so I was just under

the impression that I had to do it. But I went back to

L.A. since then and got a copy of all my cases and

stuff. And I thought they was, you know, what did they

say, expunged or some word. But they wasn't. And so

they gave me paperwork to get it done. And, you know, I

was just under the wrong, misinformation.

Since then, I came out here. And in 2012, I

got married. So. I'm older now, much older. And I'm

just trying to be a productive member of society.


MR. HOPKINS: That's all.


discussion?

Do you have anything else to add?

MR. HOPKINS: No, I'm just, I hope to have a

chance to continue to work, you know. Because now I'm a

grandfather and everything. I'm just trying to be

positive.


MR. HOPKINS: I was working in a security

company. They said they would hire me back if I could

get a card.

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MR. HOPKINS: I liked the job that I did at the

time that I did it. And since I've been in Vegas,

Las Vegas, I haven't been in any trouble or anything,

you know. And I think I could be a productive member of

society.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Let's see. I'd

make a motion to uphold the denial and deny the work

card for Mr. Hopkins.



second to deny the appeal and uphold the denial. The

reason I make that motion is I understand about people

having a change of life and entering into the realm of

responsibility. But that responsibility would have been

to disclose all of these things. I'm pretty confident

that this, that this vote would have went a different

direction had all of those things been disclosed.

MR. HOPKINS: I couldn't remember dates, but I

did tell them I had a criminal history.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yeah, but the application

doesn't say, just give a what you remember. It asks you

for arrests. So that's why I'm making it. You know, we

have to vote on it.

MR. HOPKINS: Yeah.

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discussion or question regarding the motion?




Carries unanimous. You're welcome to reapply

in a year, and disclose everything.

MR. HOPKINS: Thank you.


Number 63, Douglas Jefferson?

Good afternoon.

MR. JEFFERSON: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. We have

Investigator Maxwell.

MR. MAXWELL: Investigator Maxwell. In 2005,

Mr. Jefferson had a felony robbery charge out of

California. He received probation. And he was not made

provisional as the arrest was disclosed on his

application form.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you tell us what

that, what was, what happened, how that robbery

occurred?

MR. JEFFERSON: The actual robbery occurred in

2004. Being young, childish and immature, I was with a

bunch of friends, celebrating a birthday. One of my

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a purse. I didn't do anything to stop him. So when I

was apprehended by the police, I actually took full

responsibility of my part. I didn't go through a trial.

I pleaded not -- I pleaded guilty. I completed one year

county jail time and a five-year felony probation.

Since then, I've had kids. I've matured. I've

worked security for awhile in California and had various

other jobs, also.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: When was it that you were

officially off paper?

MR. JEFFERSON: I believe, it was 2012.


MR. JEFFERSON: Yes.


questions?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Just one, sir. What

type of work are you doing now?

MR. JEFFERSON: Right now, I'm not doing any.

I just got to Nevada full-time two weeks ago. But

before I came, I was doing security. I'm actually still

hired with the company until further notice.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: That's in California?

MR. JEFFERSON: Yes, sir.

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motion.

I'd move that we overturn the denial and grant

the appeal for Douglas Jefferson.




motion?

I have a comment. For me, you're right at that

level where it would be maybe not enough time has gone

by, but maybe so. But the fact that there hasn't been

anything other than that is probably the deciding factor

for me and the reason I made it. So.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board comment?

Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I

can support the motion, because he did disclose it.

It's been 10 years since he got off of probation. He

has absolutely no other criminal history. So I can

support the motion. Thank you, Mr. Chair.





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Thank you.

Anthony Johnson?

Good afternoon.

MR. JOHNSON: Good afternoon.


MS. DONALD: Yes. In 2010, Mr. Johnson was

arrested for possession of controlled substance and

probation violation. This was taken off the

fingerprint. The disposition was unknown. However,

Mr. Johnson stated he received one year probation and

attended classes.

In 2005, he was 17 at the time of the

conviction of kidnapping, but he was tried as an adult,

and he was charged with a felony. He had multiple

probation violations. When we looked at court

documents, it was still, had been going on in 2010. So

he did end up being tried as an adult, and the case went

on for several years because of probation violations.

He did disclose both arrests, however.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you tell us what

happened? First, start with the kidnapping. What was

that situation?

MR. JOHNSON: I was 17. It was a Friday, I

believe. Walking to the store. Seen a group of kids

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girls. We were with a bunch of kids ourselves. Walking

back to the apartments, one of the girls was walking in

the front. I was walking in the front with her. The

other group, the rest of the group was in the back. And

when we got to the apartments, two of the dudes that we

met, Stoosh, he was having a discussion and arguing with

one of the chicks. He slapped her. She left her friend

behind. We ended up walking her friend back to 7-Eleven

where we met them. And when we walked back to the

house, we got arrested, got pulled over.

The girl came out of the house and told the

police that we was with a group of people and kidnapped

her and had a gun to her back.

There was no gun. She walked, she walked on

her own. There was no force. There was nothing

kidnapish about the whole situation. We was just with a

bunch of kids. She walked on her own. The guys that

she was with, you know, were having an argument with

her. He slapped her. She left her friend. And by me

walking her friend back to the 7-Eleven, and then that's

how I got arrested.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Did you take a

plea, or did you go to trial?

MR. JOHNSON: Well, they postponed it for nine

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they told me that I did my one-year service and that I'd

get a five-year probation, and I was done with it. I

didn't plead. So.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: What about the possession

of controlled substance in 2010?

MR. JOHNSON: I was at a girlfriend's cousin's

house. And before he left, he asked me to hold

something. I held it. I went to sleep in the chair.

And by the time I woke up the next morning, there was a

police sweep. They wasn't there for me. But the person

that they was there for was no longer there. And I

ended up just getting caught up in the sweep.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So that was a violation

of the probation for the kidnapping?

MR. JOHNSON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So what kind of

time did you do?

MR. JOHNSON: I did maybe two weeks and some

classes. And I was on -- ran a few tests for like

violence.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So when were you

off paper?

MR. JOHNSON: Off paper was -- for which case?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: At the end of the day,

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MR. JOHNSON: Just for the kidnapping case, I

was done by 2010. I'm not sure of the exact dates or

time that it led me to be done. But I was done in 2010.

I was on a five-year probation on the kidnapping

situation.

The 2010 case, I did my classes. I paid for

the classes. And, I believe, I was done within a couple

of months of getting arrested.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So nothing else in the

last eight years?

MR. JOHNSON: Nothing else. I was working for

CSC. I was working for Acne. I just moved on. When I

got the phone call that my guard card was being

suspended, I ended up getting another kind of job at

Coffee Cakes, South Buffalo. Nothing else.


Any other Board questions?

I'd move that we overturn the denial and issue

a card to Anthony Johnson.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Again, it's a matter of

being a close call. But coming from that background and

not being responsible for anything else, at least that

you've been caught for or charged with, in the last

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word that you're a different person.

MR. JOHNSON: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I would imagine that your

wife, who's sitting behind you, thinks that you're a

different person. Otherwise, she wouldn't waste her

time.

MR. JOHNSON: Right. And she has a 14-year-old

son. I told her about the case in the first place, so.


and a second. Is there any Board, further Board comment





Carries unanimous.

MR. JOHNSON: Thank you.


Ora Johnson?

Good afternoon.

MS. JOHNSON: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We may need to move that

over. Can you -- yes, move to that chair. That would

be great.

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All right. Investigator Donald.

MS. DONALD: In 2008, Ms. Johnson was convicted

of battery out of California. She received probation,

some jail time, and it was dismissed under 1203.4.

Don't know if that was a felony or a misdemeanor. It

wasn't clear in the fingerprints.

In 2007, she had a conviction for domestic

battery. It was a misdemeanor.

In 1973, and this was originally why she was

denied, she was convicted of grand theft, which was a

felony.

In 1973, additionally, she also had a burglary

charge where she was convicted of a felony.

And in 1971, out of California state, she had a

grand larceny felony charge, which she was convicted.

She did serve some time in prison in the '70s,

but the fingerprint report wasn't very clear on how much

time she served. She did disclose all her arrests,

however.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Let's see. Let's

work backwards. What was the circumstances behind the

battery in 2008?

MS. JOHNSON: Well, I think, I was living in an

apartment. And I don't think I did. The lady jumped on

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called the police. And I should have went to court and

had her arrested. I didn't. I just took the beating.

So, there you are.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Well, what about

the domestic battery in 2007?

MS. JOHNSON: In Nevada?


MS. JOHNSON: Oh, this is my daughter. Ripped

my blouse. Called the police. And they took me to

jail. I do my time, 3,500, paid everything. So now I'm

here. She wants to live with me. No, thank you. I

live by myself, so I won't have that problem again.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And then, 1973, a

California grand theft?

MS. JOHNSON: Oh, yeah, I was real young then.

And I did 16 months there. And never been back again.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And '73 for burglary?

MS. JOHNSON: Yeah, and watched them, and they

told me not to come back to the state anymore. And I've

never been back there or anything.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And what was the

burglary?

MS. JOHNSON: Shoplifting clothes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Shoplifting?

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I'm working with the school cross guard, doing cross

guard work. Which you only get 30 minutes in the

afternoon, 30 minutes in the morning. You get all the

holidays off. You get summer breaks. You get winter

breaks. So I do need a few more hours.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How -- I mean I see that

you haven't been involved in the criminal justice system

in the last 10 years. Well, from the date of the

arrest.

MS. JOHNSON: Yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So it would be, what, six

years since you're all done with probation?

MS. JOHNSON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And it was ultimately

dismissed under the California statute?

MS. JOHNSON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. The thing with the

battery and the domestic battery, what do you do now to

curtail your response to adverse settings?

MS. JOHNSON: Walk away.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Walk away?

MS. JOHNSON: Just walk, walk away.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: What makes you think that

security or PI license-type activity is where you want

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MS. JOHNSON: I had a guard card before, here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Here?

MS. JOHNSON: Yeah. And I worked. But I

didn't tell them I hadn't even listed. So when it was

time to renew it, they wouldn't give it to me. And I

went back. My mother passed away, so I went to

California. And so I came back, tried to apply for it.

And I've disclosed all my arrests.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So when you had it

before, was that issued by Metro?

MS. JOHNSON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: The police department?

MS. JOHNSON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And how long did

you work security then?

MS. JOHNSON: For the whole year.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: The year?

MS. JOHNSON: Yeah.


MS. JOHNSON: And I didn't want to continue to

try to work and lie to my company and get me in trouble

and get the company in trouble.


MS. JOHNSON: Yeah.

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MS. JOHNSON: Oh, that's been over 10, 15 years

ago.


questions?





BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I would move that the

registration for Ora Johnson be issued and the denial be

overturned.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there a second? We

have a motion and a second. Any Board comment or

questions on the motion?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, to address the

motion, the batteries, the battery and the domestic

battery are not serious injury, and the other arrests

are a long time ago. So, from my perspective, we should

issue her the card.





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Thank you.

Mark Mallory?

Good afternoon.

MR. MALLORY: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Investigator Saladino.


This applicant was denied for failing to disclose, along

with two felony arrests, 54 in total arrests, starting

from 1983 and as recent as 2016. One of the felonies

was a false imprisonment with violence where it was 32

months in prison, and that was in 2002. Let's see.

There was another felony, robbery with a firearm in

1992.

We have uploaded a spreadsheet to document all

the arrests that came back on the fingerprint report.

In 2006, out of a hospital in California, he

was -- "mentally disorder parolee" was what the report

said released him as. And there's been numerous

violations of court order, violations for probation.

And that, like I said, started in 1983 and went to 2016,

with a couple felonies. And it was not disclosed on the

application.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Mr. Mallory, based

upon the reading here and on the spreadsheet and the

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right to ask for this portion of this meeting to be held

in private, because we may need to talk about your

physical and mental health.

MR. MALLORY: (Nodded head affirmatively.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And that's something that

you have a right to have done in a closed session if you

think it's warranted.

MR. MALLORY: I don't think that that would

be -- well, yeah, we could. Yes, we can, if you think

that that would be necessary.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: No, you, you need to

think that that's necessary. I can't. Everything that

I'm going to do is going to be in an open record.

MR. MALLORY: Well, first of all --

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So unless you state --

MR. MALLORY: -- I have never had a weapon in

my hand and robbed anybody. So I don't know where that

came from.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, but before we go

tromping down all of these things --

MR. MALLORY: Yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- I just want to make

sure you understand you have the right to maybe --

because they've said here that there was an issue about

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MR. MALLORY: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. You have a right

to ask us to hold this meeting --

MR. MALLORY: In open court, yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And if you don't want

this meeting closed --

MR. MALLORY: I can have a closed meeting.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You can have a closed

meeting if you want it. But I can't close it because I

feel like it.

MR. MALLORY: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. So if you

don't want it closed, it's not closed.

MR. MALLORY: We can have a closed meeting.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You want a closed

meeting?

MR. MALLORY: Yes, as far as I see lies in my

files.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All right. All right.

MR. MALLORY: And I've got four uncles that --

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Wait a minute.

We'll do that in closed session.

MR. MALLORY: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay?

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of the meeting. But you'll need to stick by close,

because when we're done, we have to reopen it and make

our decision in front of the public.

MR. MALLORY: Exactly.

MR. INGRAM: Will you escort everybody out,

down the hall a little ways.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So we'll be right back to

you as soon as we can get through the evidentiary

portion of this matter.

MR. INGRAM: So all of you in attendance need

to exit now.

And, Zach, just hang out there. Take them down

the hall a little ways. And then we'll let you know

when to bring them back in. Thank you.

* * * * *

(From 12:50 to 1:07 p.m., a closed session of the

meeting was held, after which the meeting was then

opened back up to the public and resumed as follows.)

* * * * *

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Everybody that

wants in, in?

Okay. We've finished that portion of the

presentation to where we bring you all back in, because

we can't make a decision in closed session, because this

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So now we're moving back into open session.

And we're continuing with the matter with regard to the

appeal of Mark Mallory.

Mr. Nadeau?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Investigator Saladino, since we're back in open

session, I wanted to ask that question again. All of

this information that's provided in this spreadsheet

came off of the fingerprint record from the FBI; is that

correct?

MR. SALADINO: That is correct, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, MR. Chairman.


All right. We've gone through the

investigator's presentation. We've heard what you've

had to say, Mr. Mallory. So based upon that, unless you

have something to add --

MR. MALLORY: (Shook head negatively.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- I'll call for a vote.

All right?

MR. MALLORY: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So item number 66

for Mark Mallory, do we have any other questions by the

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Do we have a motion?



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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I'll make a

motion.


BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, I would move

that the denial for Mark Mallory be upheld.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I second.


second to uphold the denial. Any Board questions or

comments regarding the motion?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, based on the

criminal history that we have, if Mr. Mallory has --

contends that it's not accurate, then it's his

responsibility to go through and question those things

that he feels are inaccurate, you know, follow the

process if he feels those things are inaccurate.

But, I think, the recency of the criminal

history is more than enough to justify denial.


Any other Board conversation, question?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All in favor of the

motion, say "aye."



Carries unanimously.



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We've denied your appeal and upheld the denial.

MR. MALLORY: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So you can reapply in a

year.

MR. MALLORY: Yes. Okay. Do you send me a

paper saying that, in the mail, that I was denied?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I don't believe that's

usually the process, because you're here now.

MR. MALLORY: Uh-huh (affirmative).

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And we are ending, you

know, our decision --

MR. MALLORY: I'm saying do I get any legal

paper saying that I was denied?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, you can go on to

the website after the court reporter --

MR. MALLORY: Right.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- puts on the minutes.

And all of the minutes by the stenographer --

MR. MALLORY: Right.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- indicate that to be

the case, I believe.

MR. MALLORY: Thank you so very much.


MR. MALLORY: I'm not accurate on all the

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you. Appreciate

it.

MR. MALLORY: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: 67, Russel McGinnis?

MR. MCGINNIS: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How are you doing?

MR. MCGINNIS: I'm good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Who's the investigator?



MR. MAXWELL: Mr. McGinnis was denied for a

1989 possess, sell, manufacture dangerous weapons

conviction out of California, for which he received 12

months probation. He was not made provisional because

he disclosed the arrest at the time of his application.


Can you tell us the circumstances surrounding

that charge?

MR. MCGINNIS: Firstly, I didn't know all of

that was on there. The only thing I was arrested for

was I was going to pick up my cousin's two kids, because

their parents were both on crack. And this is right

after I got out of the military. So I was going to pick

the kids up, take them to the pier fishing.

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and a bunch of people ran past me. So I'm not going to

turn around to run because everybody runs past me. I

didn't hear anything. I didn't see anything. So I kept

walking. Got to, just about the to steps to go

upstairs, and somebody said, "Hey, you." And I turned

around, and it was the sheriff. So he says, "What are

you doing here?" So I said, "Well, I'm going to get my

cousin's kids, take them fishing." He says, "Okay.

Cool. Come here. Do you have any weapons?" Which I

had my fishing knife.

Back then, BDUs had a thigh pocket. So I was

rushed and I put my fishing knife in my thigh pocket.

And I walked over to him, and I told him. He said, "Do

you have any weapons?" I said, "Yes, I have my fishing

knife in my pocket." And that was the whole thing. And

he said, "I could let you go, but it is a concealed

weapon, so I have to take you in."

And that, that was the whole thing.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Did you get any

jail time?

MR. MCGINNIS: No, sir. I actually only spent

three years on probation.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you for your

service, by the way.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And nothing since

then?

MR. MCGINNIS: No, sir. I've had -- been

cleared. I've worked superbowls. I work the Oscars

every year. I work, I work for Insomiac now, which we

do EDC out here. And pretty much that's all I've been

doing for the past 10 or 12 years, besides working for

the school district as security.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. But everything in

California?

MR. MCGINNIS: Yes, everything in California.

Although I did work EDC out here, but I didn't have a

position where I needed a guard card.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Did events service-type

stuff?

MR. MCGINNIS: Yes, pretty much, with Insomiac.

MR. INGRAM: You're employed by Insomiac?

MR. MCGINNIS: Yes, sir, I am.


questions?

Entertain a motion.


that we overturn the denial on Russel A. McGinnis and

grant him a card.




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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: That's based on --


second. Okay. Motion and a second. Any Board comment

or question?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, sir. That's based

upon the distance and the fact that he did disclose it.





Carries unanimous. We'll get you a card.

MR. MCGINNIS: Thank you very much.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Jamar Morris?

Good afternoon.

MR. MORRIS: Thank you. Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Investigator Saladino.


The applicant was denied for a 1992 second degree

burglary, which was a felony, out of Missouri, where the

applicant received three years of probation and 50 hours

of community service. The applicant did disclose the

arrest and conviction and provided court documents as

well. And that was the only arrest on his history.

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rundown on that?

MR. MORRIS: Sure. I was -- actually, I never

touched it or went inside the home. What it was, I was

doing a favor for a friend of a friend, asked me to take

him somewhere. Took him to the location. I have no

intentions of robbing nobody. He's -- he goes in with

another friend of his to his apartment. And I'm sitting

in the car the next time the police come up the street.

And they asked me what I'm doing. I said, "I'm waiting

on some friends that's in this apartment up here." And

that's it, you know. He said, "We have a call that

there's a burglary in place, taking place." And I'm

like, ah, I'm like in shock and disbelief, and I don't

know what's going on.

And so the next thing I know, they impound the

car, locked me up. And they released me. I didn't know

I had a warrant for a year later, you know, and why I'm

getting probation. I took probation. I was only like

18 or 19 years old. Because I wanted to get back out of

jail. They said, "You plead, we get you probation, you

get out of jail today." I wanted to go home.

So the lawyer said he would get me SIS, meaning

that my record's going to be clear when I complete the

probation. I knew I'd complete the probation, because I

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things. So. I completed the probation course. And

that's it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: That's it. Okay. Any

other Board questions?





we overturn the denial on Jamar D. Morris based upon the

time, distance and the fact that he did disclose.




second. Any Board comment or question on the motion?

All in favor?




MR. MORRIS: Thank you.


Paul Nader?

Good afternoon.

Investigator Saladino.

MR. SALADINO: Yes. The applicant was denied

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years in prison. The applicant was denied in 2016 and

is now reapplying. There was a mishap with the

scheduling. And that's why he's here now reapplying.

He did disclose the arrest. And that's why we're here

today.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So you were here

once before doing this, right?

MR. NADER: I was about five minutes late and

was denied. So I showed up after five.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh.

MR. NADER: Really late, so. I just had the

wrong information, so.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So you waited the

year, and now you're here?

MR. NADER: Yeah. I went back to Detroit and

came back here, so.


about the criminal charge, what were the circumstances

around that?

MR. NADER: Yes. I just came out of the Army,

after a few years. And I -- neighbor's friends. We

hung out with some people. And the -- it wasn't the

girl, it was the parents that might have pressed the

charges. And according -- the girl said -- she lied.

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parents wanted to, you know, press charges.

And I was 20 at the time, very, you know, still

naive at that time. It was so long ago, it was --

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How old was the girl?

MR. NADER: I think, it was 16, something like

that, so.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. How much time did

you do?

MR. NADER: Five months.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Five months.

MR. NADER: Got out a month early for good

behavior, and.


MR. NADER: It was so long ago. I'm such a

different person. And, you know, it's -- it's been

haunting me for the last 30 years, and.


MR. NADER: So, God, I wish I could take that

day back.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Well, at least you

got a wish for 365 days every year.

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Paul J. Nader, that his registration be issued and the




second. Any Board comment or question?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, again, he

disclosed it, and it's been a long time.





Carries unanimous. We'll give you a card.

MR. NADER: Thank you.


Jose Ocasio?

MR. INGRAM: Is there anyone currently in here

that has not been sworn in? Everybody's been sworn in?

Thank you.

MR. OCASIO: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good afternoon. How are

you?

MR. OCASIO: Commission and Board.

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MR. SALADINO: Yes. And the applicant was

denied for a 1989 criminal sale of controlled substance

out of New York, where he received a six-month jail

term. This was not disclosed.

There was a 1994 abuse or abandonment, cruelty

of a child, which was a felony, out of New Jersey. The

applicant did disclose this arrest.

And of the two convictions, the two felony

convictions, he did list one of them.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Is there a reason

why you didn't list the controlled substance arrest?

MR. OCASIO: Yes. I believe, they told me that

after a few years, they will close it out. And I never

bothered. Because I didn't know, I knew nothing about

the law. I was a child. I was a kid.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How old were you in '89?

MR. OCASIO: Well, born in 1963. I'm 55.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: That doesn't give me this

info. You look pretty young.

MR. OCASIO: Thank you.


circumstances? Well, let's go back to the '89

controlled substance. They got you for the sale.

MR. OCASIO: It's been a long -- it's been very

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prostitution, selling. And I decided to leave New York,

to leave my parents. And they taught me drugs and

whatever have you.

But as far as at the time, I have a stepsister.

She was 14 years old. This is the family I never knew.

And she was 14 years old, and she had four kids. One

day, I decided to go and visit her. And there was this

guy what is nude. So I got into a fight with him. And

she was crying. $4,000. Because I first was looking

for her, because the childrens was not going to school.

And I got in a fight with the guy. And they said I did

it, my own sister, stepsister.

So I left it just like that. When I was in

jail, I said, "Why is she saying I do this and that?"

And she got fined $4,000. So I tried to fight it inside

the jail, and they said it was too late, because now

they had to send me someplace else. So on good terms, I

was there for 48 days, and which I have all the records

here.

And then, after that, they told me that, okay,

but the reason was that, when I got into the fight, "You

was forgetting that there were kids in there." So they

put it as endangering the welfare of the childrens.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. What have you done

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MR. OCASIO: I worked Santa Sand Yards

(phonetic spelling). I was a very excellent carpenter.

And I can't do that anymore. I paid child support. And

which I already paid enough to pay for college. Now I

can't get a job. So I'm trying to see if I can get a

second chance and get an eight-dollar job. Paying 700

for college, you know, and it's hard.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. How many kids do

you got?

MR. OCASIO: One.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: One. Okay.

MR. OCASIO: The boy, he's 19 now.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Where's he at?

MR. OCASIO: In New York. I mean New Jersey.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How did you get to

Las Vegas?

MR. OCASIO: So I've been around, met this

wonderful woman, been married with her for 20 years.

And I'm sorry I'm broke. She's taken care of me all my

life, I think, the cycle, stuff that I do. And that's

about it. I can't get a steady job because of this.


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MR. OCASIO: And I'm sorry, Commissioner.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: No problem.

Entertain a motion.

I'd move that we overturn the denial and issue

a card to Jose Ocasio.



second. Is there any Board discussion on the motion?

I make the motion because of the age of the

crime, and I can buy the fact that there was a

misunderstanding about the lack of disclosure for the

criminal sale of controlled substance. If you were

willing to put down the abuse and abandonment and

cruelty to a child, and you forgot the one that was five

years before that, I don't imagine it was done

purposeful. So that's my reasoning.






Okay. We will give you a card.

MR. OCASIO: Thank you.


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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I had a question for

counsel. I just want to make sure for my own clarity.

Any vote that we have, any vote that we take,

in order for the motion to pass, has to be unanimous

wrong the three of us?

MS. BORDELOVE: No.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: It doesn't?

MS. BORDELOVE: No. It just has to be a

majority of the members present. You have to have a

quorum, at least three of you, to be able to have the

meeting.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Okay.

MS. BORDELOVE: But then, at any point, the

vote just needs to be a majority of the members present.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Good afternoon.

MR. PATRICK: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Let's see. You're John

Patrick?

MR. PATRICK: Yes, sir.

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for a 1995 sale of controlled substance, which was a

felony. He received three years and two months in

prison. The applicant did disclose it.

And there was a 2001 carrying of a concealed

weapon, also out of California, where there was a

six-month jail term. And this was also disclosed as

well.


circumstances surrounding the controlled substance?

MR. PATRICK: Yes. Actually, you know, growing

up Los Angeles, you know, I have three brothers, you

know. And me personally, they actually found it on the

ground. And, you know, about me being in the yard along

with my brothers, about me being the oldest, they

actually, you know, bypassed them and put it on me. So

I actually, being a big brother, I took it and went on

ahead and done the time for it.

But, you know, during those times, you know, I

actually learned my lesson. I paid my debt back to

society. That's why I'm here now, to see if you guys

can grant me, you know, my guard card so I can continue

to work doing security work.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And what was the

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MR. PATRICK: Actually, same situation. I was

walking, my brothers, you know. The area we lived in,

it's -- it was kind of chaotic, you know, as far as, you

know, the gang, your gangs and the whatnot. So I took

initiative to carry, you know, a weapon with me to

protect them. And, you know, at that time, I was young.

And I walked. And as I was walking -- we was walking up

the street. It was on a day that, I guess, the police

were patrolling neighborhood, something happened. And

when I got to the corner, they seen us. You know, I

guess, we looked suspicious. So they got me. And I

actually told them, I said, "Look, sir, look, I have a

weapon on me." And when, when I disclosed that to him,

they rushed me to the ground, took the weapon from me,

took me to jail for it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: What was the weapon?

MR. PATRICK: What was the weapon?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yeah, gun, knife?

MR. PATRICK: It was a gun, yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. You got six months

in jail for that?

MR. PATRICK: Yes. Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So the selling of a

controlled substance, you did three years?

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of four.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. What have you been

doing since 2001?

MR. PATRICK: Oh, since, since 2001, I've been

working various jobs, like Walmart, Toys R Us. And

after that, after that, I went into surgery. After

everything, I went to surgery. I got my thyroids

removed. And ever since then, I've been like going, you

know, in and out of jobs.

But now I'm here because I moved, I moved from

Los Angeles to here to renew my guard card. And

definitely I want to be able to continue to work in that

field, because that's what I'm good at. And I also have

a wife behind me that works with security as well, 15

years, she worked 15 years of it as well.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So most of your security

work's been in California?

MR. PATRICK: Yes.


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we overturn the denial on John H. Patrick based upon the

time and distance and the fact that he reported it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. We have a motion.

Is there a second?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Any Board question

or comment on the motion?




Passes unanimous. We'll give you a card.

MR. PATRICK: Thank you, sir. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Jay Propes ("Prah-pes")?

MR. PROPES: "Prohps."

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: "Prohps." Okay.

Investigator Donald.

MS. DONALD: Yes. In 2000, he's got a charge

for false statement when registering a firearm.

According to the fingerprints, he was convicted and

received probation. And he did disclose it.


about that?

MR. PROPES: It was a simple misunderstanding.

My ex-wife tried to get custody of my child two years

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understanding and what my attorney's understanding was,

the second I walked into court the temporary fell off.

In the paperwork at the final, it said all existing

restraining orders were to remain in full effect. Well,

as far as I knew, there wasn't an existing one. So I

went down to purchase a firearm for work. Because I've

been doing security about 24 years now. And I just

marked no because I wasn't aware of it.

And undercover P.D. for Anaheim Police

Department wanted me as an in for a bar that I worked

at, they wanted me to be their cover. I told them they

could have came to me instead of having me arrested, but

that there was no illegal activities in the bar, because

we didn't allow it. When they didn't find anything,

they had to press charges.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Did you go to

trial, or did you take a plea?

MR. PROPES: I took a plea, two years

probation. I went back and had it expunged. As well as

afterwards, I have actually had a permit, including

firearms permits in the state of Nevada since that time.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And what have you

been doing for employment?

MR. PROPES: I've been doing security. I've

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California in March, came out here with the job

opportunity. And then, when my card got denied, I took

a temp job as a forklift operator over at Ken's

Dressings, which actually paid better.


questions?

Entertain a motion.


that we overturn the denial on Jay Propes, based upon

the time and the distance and the fact that he did

disclose.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We have a motion. Do we

have a second?







Passes unanimous. We'll issue you a card.

MR. PROPES: Thank you, guys.


MR. PROPES: Have a good day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Ramon Sanchez, Ramon?

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MS. DONALD: That's my applicant. Gisela's

going to be interpreting for him.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Did the

stenographer understand that, we're going to have an

interpreter?

THE REPORTER: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Ms. Gisela.

MS. DONALD: Did you read the charge, so you

can tell him what I'm saying?

MS. CORRAL: M-hm (affirmative).

MS. DONALD: Okay. We received his fingerprint

report back. In 2006, he was convicted of a felony for

transportation of illegal aliens, and he received

probation.

(Ms. Corral interpreted for Mr. Sanchez Vega.)

MS. DONALD: Okay. 2005, convicted of a felony

for alien smuggling, received three years supervised

release.

MS. CORRAL: And what year was that?

MS. DONALD: 2005.


MS. DONALD: For bringing in and harboring

aliens, unknown.


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prosecution declined to press charges.


MS. DONALD: There were two more charges of

alien smuggling; but it could be, because it's

California, it's possible it's the same arrest, because

there's prosecution declined or it's unknown.

2002, one count of domestic battery and false

imprisonment with violence, disposition unknown.


MS. CORRAL: He said -- I'm sorry. What was

the charge?

MS. DONALD: Domestic battery, false

imprisonment with violence.


MS. DONALD: 2001, DUI for alcohol, unknown.


MS. DONALD: The applicant did not disclose any

of the arrests. When he came into the office, Griselda,

the other -- one of our staff members, spoke with him

and explained what, you know, why we were denying him,

and that if he could get court documents, that would be

very helpful. But we didn't receive any court

documents.

So when the fingerprint results came back,

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was actually prosecuted, other than the two felonies

that he received that show that he had received those

and was convicted.


MR. INGRAM: What was his answer?

MS. CORRAL: I'm sorry?

MR. INGRAM: What was his answer, for the

record?


MS. CORRAL: Okay. Also, he's stating that the

reason why he didn't disclose anything on his

application is someone else helped him because of that

language barrier. So he didn't really understand the

application. So when he was -- when I asked him about

the court documents, he said that he didn't know he had

to bring -- he doesn't have any, any court documents of

any sort. It's been too long. He really didn't

remember and/or understood the process.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How many times do you

recall being convicted of alien smuggling?


MS. CORRAL: So he remembers two times being,

basically, stopped, driving with undocumented

immigrants. At the time, he didn't know they were

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(Ms. Corral spoke with Mr. Sanchez Vega.)

MS. CORRAL: Like four people. So when they

got stopped by the police -- or actually not, it wasn't

the police; it was immigration -- he found out that they

didn't have any proper documentation and that they were

in the states illegally. And he remembers two times in

San Diego happening.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How many different times

has he spent time in jail?


MR. CORRAL: Okay. So he was arrested, and he

spent about four to five months while the investigation

was ongoing. After the investigation was completed,

they let him go.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there anything else

he'd like to say?


MS. CORRAL: So, basically, he's saying that,

unfortunately, it happened about, over 13 years ago. He

really didn't seem to have a need to disclose anything,

because he didn't know that he had to do it on his

application. Nobody really told him. And, obviously,

he didn't understand, because it's in English, so.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Is there any other

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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I have one, Mr. Chair.

What is his citizenship status?


MS. CORRAL: He's a resident alien. He has his

resident card.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. That's all.


MS. DONALD: Yes, I just wanted to say one

other thing. I have two felonies listed. It is

possible there was just one felony, two different

charges. Sometimes in California they start to tell,

they'll duplicate things on the record. So because he

was convicted of the same thing, I mean as far as

receiving, you know, six months custody, the three-year

supervision, it could have been one felony with two

charges. It's hard to say on that.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So --

MS. DONALD: But there was at least one felony.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And that was when?

MS. DONALD: 2006 was the latest date.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So if the burden

is ours to say, here's the fact, what can we prove?

MS. DONALD: That he does have at least one

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MS. DONALD: Yes, and it does show that on the

fingerprints. And, additionally -- oh.

(There was a brief discussion off the record

between Mr. Ingram and Board Chairman Zane.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. I'm sorry. Any

other Board questions?



motion.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I'd move that we -- go

ahead.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No, you go ahead.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I'd move that we uphold

the denial of the work card registration on Ramon

Sanchez Vega.

The reason for this is that the language

barrier isn't a good enough response for me, based upon

what processes are available to make sure there's a full

understanding of what's being asked. I know that it's

quite a while removed, and there might be some question

about the repetitive nature of the list of crimes. But

by the same token, I think, if full disclosure was even

attempted, we'd have a different prospect here.

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year and disclose whatever exists in his background and

his history, and that would help the Board to determine

whether or not he's worthy of a work card or not.

MR. INGRAM: Do you want her to translate that,

too?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yes, please.


MS. CORRAL: He was just saying that he didn't

know if he had to disclose. He didn't really understand

the application. So, obviously, he's going to make sure

that next time he applies that he discloses everything,

even if he doesn't understand. He's going to ask where

to disclose it. So.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Did we get a second?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Yeah, I believe, I

seconded it. Didn't I?






Okay. We have upheld the denial, and you can

come back in a year and reapply.


MS. CORRAL: Thank you.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Tyler Schmitz?

MR. SCHMITZ: Hello.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How are you?

MR. SCHMITZ: Good, how are you?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I'm fine.



for a 2004 carrying concealed weapon out of Wisconsin.

It was not disclosed on the application.

And there was a 2003 resisting an officer,

which was a misdemeanor, and he did receive a -- had to

pay a fine.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Was there a reason you

didn't disclose those two?

MR. SCHMITZ: The -- honestly, I didn't

remember, and I thought that it was not going to be on

the record. I was a taxi driver, and they did an FBI

background check as well, and none of that came up. So

I thought, over, beyond the time frame, and it was over.

Honestly, why I didn't disclose it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And what was the

circumstance surrounding the resisting, or obstructing

an officer in 2003?

MR. SCHMITZ: That was with an OWI. I was

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too, as well, when it happened. But I was just very

intoxicated.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. They said the OWI

isn't on there.

MR. SCHMITZ: It was all when I was a minor. I

was 17. My ID was messed up in Wisconsin, so it said I

was a year older. So I went to the jail for a night.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh. And what about the

CCW in 2004?

MR. SCHMITZ: I was driving in a friend's car.

We just went to the corner store, came back. I got

pulled over for not using my blinker. They searched the

vehicle, and they found my friend's gun in a gun box

under the passenger seat. But because I was driving, I

got the ticket.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board

questions?



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: What have you been doing

for work?

MR. SCHMITZ: I was a security bike patrol at a

gym. But when the provisional reannounced, I stopped.

And I've been doing Uber and Lyft for about two weeks

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motion.


we overturn the denial on Tyler Schmitz, based upon the

time involved here and the fact that they're both

misdemeanors.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Second?

For discussion, I'll second. We have a motion

and a second for overturn, for time. And I'm not

inclined to support the motion given the fact that there

was no disclosure, even though they were a while ago and

even though they wouldn't have kept him from being

considered.

That's a difficult call to make, because they

are misdemeanors.



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I'll be honest. They're

fairly recent. Clearly, he remembers the circumstances.

And yet he didn't disclose. That's my struggle with

this.

MR. SCHMITZ: I remembered them after they were

brought to my attention by your investigators. But the

main reason I didn't disclose them, I knew it happened,

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cab driver, they did the FBI background check as well,

and it came back clear, and I assumed that.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: They came back with no

felonies.

MR. SCHMITZ: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board question

or comment?



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: All in favor of the

motion, say "aye."

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Aye.



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: No.

The motion failed. So the appeal is denied.

And you're free to come back in a year and reapply.

Thank you.

Desean Smith, Desean?

We'll trail.

William Tennant?

We'll trail.

Zachary Thomas?

Good afternoon.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Investigator Maxwell.


Mr. Thomas was denied for a 1983 felony drugs conviction

out of California. He was initially made provisional.

The arrest was not disclosed. And the disposition off

of the fingerprints says that he served four years in

prison.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You said four years

prison?

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: On the printout we have

here, it says 11. Is that just the term?

MR. INGRAM: Are you on the right one?

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Tennant?

MR. INGRAM: Zachary -- oh, Tenant, no, we

trailed Tennant.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm

sorry. I'm looking at the wrong guy. You could be

somebody else for a couple, you could be somebody else

for a couple minutes, in my mind anyway.

MR. THOMAS: I got nervous when you said 11

years.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: It started with a T. Now

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that?

MR. THOMAS: Well, sir, I was -- grew up in

Los Angeles, California, in a ghetto, where they had the

riot. Hanging around the wrong people. Doing what they

do. And I got busted. And I didn't do four years. I

did, I think it was about two and a half. And after I

came home, I moved out. I moved away.

I've been trucking now for 17 and a half years.

I just got a truck in January. Before that, I did

security in Bakersfield, California for about two years.

Before that, I was working in temporary agencies and

doing security off and on. So.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Was there a reason

that you didn't disclose this when you filled out the

application?

MR. THOMAS: Well, usually, when I fill out an

application or anything, they go 10 years back. And

that's why I didn't disclose it, because it's been,

what, 35 years. Yeah, that's why I didn't disclose it,

you know. So I'm figuring 10 years, you know. It's

been over, it's been, like I say, 35 years. So that's

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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I would move that

Zachary C. Thomas be issued his registration and the



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Motion. Is there a

second?

I think, we might have been talking over. Did

you second, Mr. Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, I did.


Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any

comment or question on the motion?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, it's been 35

years.

Mr. Thomas, the next time you fill out the

application, disclose it.

MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir.

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MR. THOMAS: Okay. I'll hear from you guys

through the mail, or?

MR. INGRAM: We'll contact you.

MR. THOMAS: Thank you, sir.


Curtiss Tucker?

Good afternoon.

MR. TUCKER: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Let me make sure I get

the right guy here.

Investigator Maxwell.


Mr. Tucker was denied for two felony convictions in 1998

out of California. He was not issued provisional as he

disclosed the first one, which was a felony possession

of narcotic controlled substance, which he was committed

to prison. On the fingerprints, another one showed up

where it says "felon in possession of a firearm," where

he had an eight months prison consecutive sentence. But

the first one was disclosed.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Can you tell us about the

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young. I left home. And I was, basically, trying to

keep money for my sense of survival out there in the

street, when I left home, because I didn't want to go

home at the time. And I got with the wrong crowd, and

we got to selling it, selling narcotics. And that's

when I got, got...

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And then what's

the second charge, the felony?

MR. TUCKER: I was in a car with, actually, at

the time, my girlfriend's brother. And the police

pulled us over. There was a gun in the car, sitting

right there on the transmission part right there in the

car. They pulled me out. When they pulled me out, then

they pulled him out. And what happened was, with me

being out on O.R., they gave me the case with the gun.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Arrested for that charge,

though, they stacked it and --

MR. TUCKER: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: -- did it consecutively?

MR. TUCKER: Yes, sir. They ran it together.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Together?

MR. TUCKER: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. What made you

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together. I had let them know that I did have charges

that would happen together.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You did?

MR. TUCKER: I did, yeah. And I figured it was

together, because as I had my guard card out in

California, and I disclosed that. And then, when I got

out here, I was working for American Staffing. And I

disclosed that then, just like you just said. It came

up on there that it could stop me from working. And

American, had to start going to CSR.


questions?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Pleasure of the

Board, motion.

I move that we overturn the denial and issue

the work card.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Is there -- there's a

motion and a second. Any Board comment or discussion on

the motion?

I make the motion because I can buy the fact

that there was some confusion about the disclosure. And

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to purposely hide it anyway. So I can buy the fact that

there was some confusion, and it probably shouldn't be

counted against him.





Carries. Unanimous. There we go, on that.

We'll get you a card.

MR. TUCKER: Thank you.


Ernest Wallace?



for a 2007 concealed weapons conviction. This was a

misdemeanor. The applicant received probation. He did

disclose it on his application. And that's why we're

here.


circumstances about that?

MR. WALLACE: I was working for a company

called AT Systems Security. I was on my way home. I

had my jacket on. And there was another company in my

place, which was Justa Heights (phonetically spelled),

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the gentleman that was in there was with a girl. And we

had a couple words, and I told him I was going to call

Gene and tell him that he's got a girl in his car.

Which was a mistake. And then he called the police and

said that I pointed my gun at him.

So I called dispatch. I told them, I said, "I

didn't point my gun at him." He stops and said, "Wait."

So I did. So I waited. In the midst of waiting, I put

my jacket back on. And there was a Smith, you know,

inside. And when the officer came, he said he was going

to arrest me for, number one, pointing a gun at him.

But he was wondering why my gun wasn't loaded. And,

number two, he put down "partially concealed weapon,"

which I didn't know.

But either way he put it, it was my mistake,

because being a security card in Nevada from 2002

to 2005. And I had every license there was to have.

You know, I messed up by confronting him, having this

confrontation with this young man. He had no way out

but to do something, because he was about to get fired,

you know. But the truth, me and this gentleman, we

speak every time we see each other. We are not friends,

but we are, "Hey, how's it going?" so on and so forth.

I waited 12 years to get this back. I did

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everything I was supposed to do to change from being --

not a mantra. I wouldn't say that. But just looking at

people more just like, "Hey, what are you doing?"

instead of just -- and just saying, "Hey, how's it

going?" Just minding my business, and going home.

That's it.

But I waited 12 years. And this business,

security is my life. And like I said, every license

there was to have in Nevada, I had it. Gaming, armed,

armed and private, bodyguard, I did it all. And I lost

everything. And I'm sitting hearing now, guys, and I'm

wondering. I waited 12 years like what the paper told

me. I'm sitting here getting my license back in five.

You know, which is good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, life has also

changed over time. Before -- the rules have changed

over time. Before, any felony was no-go. And that's

changed over time. I mean you could have come in here

with a felony from 1955, and we would have said no. But

that's changed over time.

MR. WALLACE: But that's what, that's what

happened, like I said. And like I've been trying to be

at work ever since. Like I said, when I've had to put

in applications in the last 12 years, all they ask me

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to Virginia to Las Vegas, security.

And then having a gun charge, even though it's

my gun -- and my gun is sitting at home right now. I

got the two years probation. I went and picked it up.

No one will even look at me. No one will give me a

chance to go in and interview. Not unless someone knows

me and knows my character, and maybe they will talk to

the supervisor or the person signing, then I get the

job. But beyond that. And I wasn't used to that,

because when I was younger, I always got a call back,

and I always shined in interviews, I knew I was going to

get that job. Not today.


questions?




BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I say we

overrule the denial for Ernest Wallace and issue him a

card based upon the fact that he did disclose, and it's

been quite a while since this issue took place.

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or question regarding the motion?




Passes unanimous. It looks to me like it's a

good day to be Wallace.

MR. WALLACE: That's something my daddy would

say, sir.

MR. INGRAM: We'll be in touch with you.

MR. WALLACE: Thanks, guys. Thank you so much.

Thanks.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Alton Warner?

Good afternoon.

MR. WARNER: Good afternoon.


MS. DONALD: Yes. In 2003, Mr. Warner was

charged with a felony for making a fictitious check out

of California. He received formal probation, jail time,

and he paid restitution. He did disclose it. And he

did provide court documents.

In 1997, out of California, he was convicted of

a misdemeanor grand theft property. Probation, jail,

restitution. He disclosed that as well. And he also

provided court documents for that arrest and conviction.

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start with the latest one. What was the situation

around the check?

MR. WARNER: I had just, I lost my job. And

what he said he was going -- he said he had some money

for me. And he said, "Here's a check." You know, so

I'm like, oh, okay. I thought it was good. I didn't

know it was bad till I got there. And then, because

I -- I just, you know, I shouldn't have did it. But,

you know, it was a situation where I should not have. I

should have stayed at home. And so I did something I

shouldn't have done.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: How much was the check?

MR. WARNER: $1,400.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And then what about the

grand theft property?

MR. WARNER: Well, that was, I was working for

the school district. And I ordered some uniforms. And

the principal said I didn't order the uniforms. And me

and him had words, and he put his hand on me. And I

body-slammed him.

So we went to court. And at the time, I was

coaching high school, Pop Warner, and the LAPD football

team at the same time. So they was like, "Well, okay,

you can't coach at L.A. Unified anymore. But, you know,

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Because I -- before that, I had never been in trouble.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: But I mean what was the

occasion that caused you to be arrested?

MR. WARNER: Oh, because it ended up being

because I had a fight with the principal, and he said

that I spent money, that I didn't do. He said I -- when

I said I ordered uniforms, I was coaching, and I ordered

uniforms, he said I didn't. And it was, you know, it

was like, basically, his word against mine and

everything. And I showed him the receipt, and he didn't

believe me.

And so that's why I ended up going. That's

what, they said I took the check without getting

anything.


questions?




I move that we overturn the denial and issue

the card, based upon the amount of time that's elapsed.



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We'll issue you a card.

MR. WARNER: Thank you, sir.


Wesley Widerholt?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: He's up here.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Were you sworn in?

MR. WIDERHOLT: Yes, I was sworn in.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: This is for Investigator

Donald.

MS. DONALD: Okay. In 1996, Mr. Widerholt was

convicted of a felony, assault with a deadly weapon.

In '87, he was convicted of a felony, inmate

manufacturing a weapon.

And two times in '86, he was convicted once of

a felony, inmate manufacturing a weapon, and then an

armed robbery felony.

He disclosed all of the arrests. And I spoke

to him on the phone. He told me the sentences were

served concurrently. He was released from prison in

2002. And he did disclose everything.

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spent. But he stated, you know, four years for one and

two years for another, five years for another arrest.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: What can you tell us

about your -- let's talk about the criminal stuff that's

outside the prison system. What can you tell me about

your first arrest and conviction?

MR. WIDERHOLT: The first arrest was

October 31st, 1985. I was arrested for a strong-armed

robbery on a store owner. Me and a couple of friends,

we did it. And we were arrested the same night. I was

19 years old. And it was extremely stupid.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: So then, after that, you

had two situations where, in prison where it's inmate

manufacturing a weapon?

MR. WIDERHOLT: Yes. And the dates are wrong.

I'm sorry. They're 1987 and 1989. One was out of --


MR. WIDERHOLT: One was out of Sacramento

County, which was old Folsom. Or new Folsom. Excuse

me. The other one was out of Sonora, which was

Jamestown. And I received two years consecutive for

both terms.

I had those weapons because I was -- I'd never

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times I got extremely scared for my life. So I

manufactured those weapons in fear of my life.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. And then what

about the '96 assault with a deadly weapon?

MR. WIDERHOLT: I was at a bar. I got in a

confrontation with somebody. He pulled a knife. I

pulled a pocket knife. He put his away. I put mine

away. He went and called the police. Because I was on

parole, I was automatically found guilty. I was given

the maximum term, which is four years. So I had served

seven out of nine years, and then I served three years

out of four.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. So what was your

last occasion within the criminal justice system, either

on parole or any type of supervision?

MR. WIDERHOLT: I had a 2009 assault, but it

was a misdemeanor. I was on probation for about a year.

I was given -- I ended up filing probation. Then I did

a 90-day term. And that was in Nevada. That was in

Reno, Nevada.


circumstances around that?

MR. WIDERHOLT: I was dating a girl who stole a

camera from me. So I went to her house to retrieve the

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where she was at. So I pulled a knife and I popped her

back tire. And the officer said that that was assault

with a deadly weapon. And they dropped it down to a

simple assault, in the courtroom.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: And what have you been

doing for employment in the last 10 years?

MR. WIDERHOLT: I've been driving truck for

multiple different companies, including my last job was

Granite Construction. Before that, I worked for Frehner

Construction. I was a laborer. I've worked for various

warehouse companies.

February 14, 2017, I was injured on the job.

Been fighting with workman's comp ever since, trying to

find a type of job that would be a little bit better

suited. I have an injury to my right wrist.

And I was approached at a JobConnect to

interview for a company called Securitas. So I

interviewed with her. And I disclosed to her about my

felony past. And she said that she only went seven

years back, as far as felony conviction. And then, when

I got your paperwork, I seen that you said any felonies.

So I disclosed it on your paperwork.

I'd also like to add that I've had a history of

drug problems. And October 1st, 2015 is my clean date.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Congratulations.

MR. WIDERHOLT: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any other Board

questions?






BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: I would move that

Wesley -- is it "Wid-r-hohlt"?

MR. WIDERHOLT: "Wide-r-hohlt."

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: -- Widerholt be issued

his registration and the denial be overturned. And I'll

explain if there's a second.



BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: First off, Mr. Widerholt

has disclosed. I think, he's been very forthright with

the Board. I think, he is -- again, we have the --

2009?

MR. WIDERHOLT: Yeah.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: -- 2009 that didn't even

come up, you've explained that before it showed up.

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Board. I think, he should be given an opportunity.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Anything else?


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. All in favor, say

"aye."



Passes unanimously. That's what it looks like

when honesty prevails.

MR. WIDERHOLT: Wow. Well, thank you,

gentlemen. And thanks for doing the investigation. You

know, when I applied for Amazon, they went seven years

back and none of this stuff popped up. So I was in

question of myself, well, should I disclose it on your

paperwork or not? And I just said yes and I disclosed

it. So I'm glad I did.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: I would imagine, if you

hadn't, though, you would have seen a different outcome.

MR. WIDERHOLT: Yes, sir.


MR. WIDERHOLT: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Aric Young?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Not here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Aric Young?

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MR. INGRAM: 52, 55 and 57.


Tomas Baltazar?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Not here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Number 55, Taham

Cristilli? Taham Cristilli?

MR. INGRAM: 62.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: 62.

MR. INGRAM: I'm sorry. 57.


MR. INGRAM: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Dexter Dukes? Dexter

Dukes or Dexter "Doo-kess"?

MR. INGRAM: And then 62.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: 62, Will Hopkins?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Mr. Chair, didn't we take

action on Mr. Hopkins? I thought we denied Mr. Hopkins.

MR. INGRAM: Oh, I'm sorry. We denied him.

Yes, correct. That's correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Mr. Hopkins is

dealt with.

MR. INGRAM: 75.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: 75, Desean Smith?

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BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We didn't do Mr. Tennant?

MR. INGRAM: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Number 76, William

Tennant?

MR. INGRAM: 82.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Number 82, Aric Young?

There's nobody coming forward. Could I have a

motion we deny all of those appeals. Well, I'll make

that motion.


BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any Board conversation or

question regarding the motion?




Passes unanimous.

MR. INGRAM: There's one more item that's

trailed. That's item number 19, AccuSource.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Could we go back to item

number 19, AccuSource, Inc. But there was some question

about them having a scheduling conflict; is that

correct?

MR. INGRAM: That's correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Could we have a

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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No moved.



BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Any question or comment?




Passes unanimous.

I guess, we're at 83, Board comment and future

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BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Did I miss, on number 44,

did we -- I didn't make any notes on number 44.

MR. INGRAM: Yeah, we did. That was approved,

Mr. Riddle. That was a unanimous pass.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: We approved it.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: All right. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Okay. Is there anything

to raise on Board comments and future agenda items?

Any public comment in the north?

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: No public.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No public.

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south?

We have one public, but he's being quiet.

MR. SPRIGGS: Why, yes, sir. Michael Spriggs

has a comment, president of the Nevada Society of

Professional Investigators, would like to say thank you

to Mr. Zane for his service and being the Chairman and

for the professionalism you've brought to the Board.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Well, thank you.

MR. SPRIGGS: All of the Board members

respected him over the years. And I know our group, we

definitely have been satisfied with you being here.

Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Thank you very much.

Appreciate it. It's been a privilege to serve with all

of you. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER NADEAU: Thank you, Mark.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Thanks, Mark.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: You bet.

Motion to adjourn.

We're adjourned.

MS. DONALD: It's not official till you use the

thing, the gavel, one last time.

BOARD CHAIRMAN ZANE: Yeah (used gavel). We're

done.

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(The meeting adjourned at 2:30 p.m.)

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REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE

I, SHANNON L. TAYLOR, a Nevada Certified Court

Reporter, Nevada CCR #322, do hereby certify:

That I was present at the Office of the Attorney

General, 100 North Carson Street, Mock Court Room,

Carson City, Nevada, on Thursday, June 14, 2018, for a

matter scheduled for 9:00 a.m., and commencing at

9:02 a.m. took stenotype notes of a meeting of the State

of Nevada Private Investigators Licensing Board;

That I thereafter transcribed the aforementioned

stenotype notes into typewriting as herein appears, and

that the within transcript, consisting of pages 1

through 227, is a full, true, and correct transcription

of said stenotype notes of the open meeting portion of

said meeting;

I further certify that I am not an attorney or

counsel for any of the parties, not a relative or

employee of any attorney or counsel connected with the

actions, nor financially interested in the actions.

DATED: At Carson City, Nevada, this 9th day of

July, 2018.

____________________________

SHANNON L. TAYLOR

Nevada CCR #322, RMR

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